Which .357?

You can get a 686 plus if you want 7 rounds....it's only one less than the 8 shot fancy custom shop 627's, and it's a much more reasonable size for a .357 diameter cartridge. The L frame was designed for continuous magnum use and is only marginally larger than the K frame. Of course, if cost is no object the Python also makes a nice choice in .357 Magnum.

Honestly shot count does not bother me and the overwhelming availability of 6 shot speedloaders vs 7 shot ones just makes the decision easier. If I wanted a gun with copious amounts of rounds to fire in one reload, I'd get a 9mm semi auto

If I wanted a gun with an amazingly smooth action and near flawless trigger with excellent balance I'd get a S&W revolver ;)
 
The small investment required for a copy of the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson would be worth it.

My 686-4 is a fine wheel gun but I too am not real crazy about the extra weight of the full lug barrel. Unless you're set on a S&W, you might look at the Ruger Security Six or GP100 too.
 
Don't forget the model 13 and model 65 k frames or the 581 and 681 L frames. I think I like the fixed sights better.
 
Honestly shot count does not bother me and the overwhelming availability of 6 shot speedloaders vs 7 shot ones just makes the decision easier. If I wanted a gun with copious amounts of rounds to fire in one reload, I'd get a 9mm semi auto

If I wanted a gun with an amazingly smooth action and near flawless trigger with excellent balance I'd get a S&W revolver ;)

You said you were new, just trying to give you all the options. Some of the newer models come cut for moon clips, which to me are a pain due to needing a tool to remove the empty cases. But a lot of people like how fast the reloads are and the minimal bulk compared to a speedloader. Since it sounds like you are dead set on a Smith, the best thing to do is to go to Smith and Wesson's website and use the specifications menu which allows you to choose models based on frame size(J, K, L, N, etc.), model group(Classic Series, M&P, Pro Series), or caliber. This way you can look at everything S&W currently makes that comes in .357 Magnum and choose which one fits you best.
 
You said you were new, just trying to give you all the options. Some of the newer models come cut for moon clips, which to me are a pain due to needing a tool to remove the empty cases. But a lot of people like how fast the reloads are and the minimal bulk compared to a speedloader. Since it sounds like you are dead set on a Smith, the best thing to do is to go to Smith and Wesson's website and use the specifications menu which allows you to choose models based on frame size(J, K, L, N, etc.), model group(Classic Series, M&P, Pro Series), or caliber. This way you can look at everything S&W currently makes that comes in .357 Magnum and choose which one fits you best.

Thanks for being concise, but on the newer stuff, I'm decided on something used, something like a 686-4 or older
 
The Model 686 is a great choice for a belt holster, so you can't go wrong if you choose one. If you're thinking about concealed carry the Model 65 or 66 K frame is a better choice. My absolute favorite 357 is my Model 66 with a 3" barrel but these are not common and hard to find. For a fixed sight version the 581/681 are truly excellent as are the smaller Model 13/65 versions. You have a lot of options on the secondary market. Go with whatever model is the most comfortable for you.
I think Smith made a big mistake when they stopped making some of their best revolvers. Now they are more desirable than ever for those who know.
 
So just a follow up question, if I wanted something with a half-lug a K or N frame is the only way to go, correct? No such thing as an L frame w/ half lug?

Between those two, would the N be the better bet due to strength and longevity shooting magnum loads? a 28-2 perhaps?
 
bottlerocket,

There is a wealth of valuable information on this website. There are so many people here who are generous with their knowledge and opinions. The opinions you've found here are all well thought out and each have their valid points. The dilemma for all of us is, ultimately, we have to make our own decisions and that may require another final approach....

I have no idea where you live or if you would have access to a large gun store that may have all the frame sizes in their inventory. That would probably be your best option -- to handle and try out all the guns you may be interested in.

That would be important because they all feel different from one another and fit everyone's hands differently. Like shoes, no one can tell you what fits you best until you try them.

What everyone seems to lose track of is any gun doesn't have to be a final choice. If you decide you made the wrong first choice you can always add a second gun or sell your first one. That's the beauty of all the choices S&W provides us.

I have many guns in my collection of all frames, barrel lengths and different finishes. Each has particular features uniquely better than other frames in one category or another.

Only you should finally decide what you like, what fits your intended use best, what gives you the performance you want, and what feels best in your hand....

If you can make an effort to find and handle guns you are considering personally I'm sure you will make the right decision.... then let us see a picture and give us a report when you make your final choice....:):)

Hope this helped.....:)
 
I would try to go to a fairly well stocked gun store and handle all the different S&W 357 Mags you an.
Even better would be to go to a range that rents S&W's and shot as many as you can.

There is not a bad S&W 357 Mag [and remember I am not a 357 Mag kind of guy, sometimes I wish I was, see my post so named].

One thought would be, the more you want to shoot the 357 Mag, with full power loads the bigger frame you should get.

The Beauty of the S&W 357 Mags is, you can get them in more barrel/frame sizes and combinations that any other calibre.

And most likely you will not have only one...

So get the one you like the best, the one that feels best to you now, and as time goes on, you can either go bigger or smaller framed, shorter or longer barreled, depending on your experience with your first 357 Mag.

Such as a smaller lighter 357 nmag for Comcealed Carry, and a bigger heavier, longer barreled 357 Mag for the "field".

Together, they will make a great pair...
 
My first revolver was a .357. After being a 1911 guy (military), and a Glock guy by agency mandate, I happened to be in a store where I picked up the Performance Center 627 w/5" barrel. I was so impressed by the action I bought it on the spot.

I retired that for a better carrying 627 (also .357) with the 2.625" barrel, and that remains the best revolver I've ever shot in the ensuing years. The action is heavy, but glass smooth. No problem at 25 yards in double action. Amateur pictures at Doug Wever's Photo Galleries at pbase.com

As an aside, I have been extremely pleased with the big N Frame's ability to manageably shoot big loads like Federal Premium.357M 140 and 180 grain hunting loads. Big push but not pain (at the range with a box of 50 PNC .357M I opened up a pretty good recoil blister from the texture on the grip; almost pleasurable right?:-).
 
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bottlerocket,

There is a wealth of valuable information on this website. There are so many people here who are generous with their knowledge and opinions. The opinions you've found here are all well thought out and each have their valid points. The dilemma for all of us is, ultimately, we have to make our own decisions and that may require another final approach....

I have no idea where you live or if you would have access to a large gun store that may have all the frame sizes in their inventory. That would probably be your best option -- to handle and try out all the guns you may be interested in.

That would be important because they all feel different from one another and fit everyone's hands differently. Like shoes, no one can tell you what fits you best until you try them.

What everyone seems to lose track of is any gun doesn't have to be a final choice. If you decide you made the wrong first choice you can always add a second gun or sell your first one. That's the beauty of all the choices S&W provides us.

I have many guns in my collection of all frames, barrel lengths and different finishes. Each has particular features uniquely better than other frames in one category or another.

Only you should finally decide what you like, what fits your intended use best, what gives you the performance you want, and what feels best in your hand....

If you can make an effort to find and handle guns you are considering personally I'm sure you will make the right decision.... then let us see a picture and give us a report when you make your final choice....:):)

Hope this helped.....:)

I would try to go to a fairly well stocked gun store and handle all the different S&W 357 Mags you an.
Even better would be to go to a range that rents S&W's and shot as many as you can.

There is not a bad S&W 357 Mag [and remember I am not a 357 Mag kind of guy, sometimes I wish I was, see my post so named].

One thought would be, the more you want to shoot the 357 Mag, with full power loads the bigger frame you should get.

The Beauty of the S&W 357 Mags is, you can get them in more barrel/frame sizes and combinations that any other calibre.

And most likely you will not have only one...

So get the one you like the best, the one that feels best to you now, and as time goes on, you can either go bigger or smaller framed, shorter or longer barreled, depending on your experience with your first 357 Mag.

Such as a smaller lighter 357 nmag for Comcealed Carry, and a bigger heavier, longer barreled 357 Mag for the "field".

Together, they will make a great pair...

Thanks for the insightful replies guys! My last post was just more of a criteria thing. I wasnt sure if a half-lug L frame existed or if it was only full lug and if I would be better off with the heavier N frame as opposed to the K for frequent magnum loads. This won't be a carry weapon. I own both a Khar for EDC and a USP for time to time carrying. This is going to be a range toy and probably take it along hunting or get some shot loads for the occasional snake.
 
Well from what you have stated I would look hard at an L frame or an N frame with a 6" barrel, whichever you like the best, for your first 357 Mag. I would pick a steel framed gun.

I can also say that the Speer shotshells in 38/357 Mag work great on snakes.

I have killed a few with them, and the wife has killed a bunch, as her carry gun around our place is A S&W Centennial.

We have killed several Diamond back water snakes over 40" in length. They are not posionious, but they eat our duck eggs...

I have used the Speer shotshels in 38/357, 9mm, 44 Mag and 45 ACP.

They all work very good.

The 44's and the 45 ACP's, have killed a bunch of game for me.

The wife has killed squirrels [I really like to eat them], at distances that I would not have shot at them with a 12ga with high base No6's...

When ever we are in the field, we always have a BUNCH of Speer Shotshells.
 

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