While everyone is buying a Shield, I bought this...

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I live in California where purchasing a new M&P is nearly impossible and a used one sells for over $1k. So instead of spending a paycheck on a new pistol, I opted for this instead......






And converted my 4" MP9




To a 5" Performance Center MP9




I hardly ever shot the original but I hoping this setup will get me motivated to shoot it some more.
 
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Congratulations. I too just bought an M&P, but I did nothing so spectacular , mine is a Police Trade In MP40 and 357 barrel.

Very nice purchase. Enjoy!
 
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Very nice!
But, can you explain the "CA. can't buy an M&P theory" there?
I knew CA. had some very F'ED up laws there with their gun laws, but not being able to buy an M&P? :eek:
 
Very nice!
But, can you explain the "CA. can't buy an M&P theory" there?
I knew CA. had some very F'ED up laws there with their gun laws, but not being able to buy an M&P? :eek:

I believe they have a specific "list" of acceptable weapons and they are not on it. IIRC...YMMV
 
Very nice!
But, can you explain the "CA. can't buy an M&P theory" there?
I knew CA. had some very F'ED up laws there with their gun laws, but not being able to buy an M&P? :eek:

I've read that CA finally implemented their "microstamping" requirement, under which autoloading pistols must imprint a unique number on each cartridge case and/or primer that the gun fires, so that at a crime scene cops can pick up empty cases and know which gun was used in the crime. (Anybody see the logical flaws inherent in this theory? Apart from the ease of polishing out the surfaces of the chamber and firing pin tip so no marks appear on the empties.) Also, I believe that autoloaders must now contain a loaded chamber indicator that gives tactile indication of a loaded gun, AND says "loaded" as well. (I don't think it has to say loaded in both English and Spanish, but I wouldn't bet against it.)

The Shield has the porthole that lets you see if the chamber is loaded, doesn't have a tactile loaded chamber indicator. And I don't think many, if any, manufacturers have invested in the technology to make microstamping barrels and firing pins. So for the most part, only guns that were on the CA approved list before microstamping came in can now be sold, and then only if the manufacturer pays the fee every year to keep the gun on the list.

BTW, the list is absolutely rigid. Almost ANY change to a gun requires the changed gun to be registered, and to meet any then-current requirements for registration. When Glock offered some models in Desert Tan they were considered "new" guns that would have had to meet new requirements, even the "old" colors were grandfathered and didn't. There are Glock models with the magazine release set up for right handers which are grandfathered, but which may not be sold if the mag release is set up for left handers. Even though it is perfectly legal to buy a right handed model and switch the mag release for left hand operation yourself. It's even legal to buy the approved model and send it back to Glock and have THEM switch the mag release for left handers and send it back to you. But it's NOT legal for Glock to sell one already set up for left handers without adding new "safety" features to it.

I'm sure these carefully crafted safety standards are why there is so little gun crime in CA these days. Californians should be grateful that they have such smart people looking out for them.
 
You know why don't the mfgs just say no, we're not doing this oh and by the way since we can't sell to the public we won't sell, ship to, or service any agency based in CA either (outside of current enforcable contracts). It would take all of them banding together but Im betting it will take about 3 years and it will be over. I know wishful thinking but someone has to stop the madness over there.

@ the OP nice m&p
 
You know why don't the mfgs just say no, we're not doing this oh and by the way since we can't sell to the public we won't sell, ship to, or service any agency based in CA either (outside of current enforcable contracts). It would take all of them banding together but Im betting it will take about 3 years and it will be over. I know wishful thinking but someone has to stop the madness over there.

@ the OP nice m&p

Barrett did this years ago.
 
You know why don't the mfgs just say no, we're not doing this oh and by the way since we can't sell to the public we won't sell, ship to, or service any agency based in CA either (outside of current enforcable contracts). It would take all of them banding together but Im betting it will take about 3 years and it will be over.
@ the OP nice m&p

Actually this is exactly the intent of the Liberals and Politicians. Stop guns from coming into the State, then start targeting more and more gun owners with restrictive gun bans.
 
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