I'm with you PALADIN. I don't care for the M9 either, especially not in 9mm. However, there is one quality that makes it better than many guns, super reliable.
I have seen many of these in action. While I'm sure it's happened, I have yet to see one malfunction. At the moment, it's the only semi-auto pistol in my personal experience that has this record. I may not like the DA/SA action (especially for new shooters), I may not like the 9mm, but I love reliable. Functional reliability is the number one value in a defensive pistol. If it don't work, the caliber and action matter not.
The M9 spends most of its time in a holster. As such it gets dragged through the mud, dirt and dust. This is always detrimental to pistol operation. And yet, the M9 chugs along. It was chosen because 9mm is a NATO round, but it won because of reliability.
No, I don't like the M9, but neither do I feel bad for our troops.
BERETTA U.S.A. RELIABILITY AND DURABILITY STATISTICS FOR THE BERETTA 9mm PISTOL.
• The average reliability of all M9 pistols tested at Beretta U.S.A. is 17,500 rounds without a stoppage.
• During one test of twelve pistols fired at Beretta U.S.A. before Army supervision, Beretta-made M9 pistols shot 168,000 rounds without a single malfunction.
• The Beretta 9mm pistol was the most reliable of all pistols tested in the 1984 competition which resulted in the award of the M9 contract to Beretta.
• Two-thirds of all M9 pistols endurance tested at Beretta U.S.A. fired 5,000 rounds without a single malfunction or, at most, with only one malfunction.
• The average durability of Beretta M9 slides is over 35,000 rounds, the point at which U.S. Army testing ceases.
• The average durability of M9 frames is over 30,000 rounds. The average durability of M9 locking blocks is 22,000 rounds.
No one is a bigger fan of the 1911 than I, but detail strip it with no tools? How do you get the grips off? The main spring housing out? Field strip, yes, but I'm having a hard time with a detail strip. For that matter, I don't know of any pistol that can be detail stripped without at least a couple tools.Plus, I could detail strip it with no tools - not possible with the complex M9.
John
No one is a bigger fan of the 1911 than I, but detail strip it with no tools? How do you get the grips off? The main spring housing out? Field strip, yes, but I'm having a hard time with a detail strip. .
I see. Most have Allen or Torx screws in the grips these days. Even so, I hadn't thought of the spring to remove slotted screws or the hammer strut to remove the main spring housing pin. It wouldn't be my first choice, but it can be done. Good call.For grip screws, use one of the ends of the three prong trigger sring. For removing the mainspring housing, use the drift pin built into the end of the hammer strut. Browning made them that way on purpose. You can detail strip the 1911 just using the parts as they come off the gun as tools to remove the rest.
No one is a bigger fan of the 1911 than I, but detail strip it with no tools? How do you get the grips off? The main spring housing out? Field strip, yes, but I'm having a hard time with a detail strip. For that matter, I don't know of any pistol that can be detail stripped without at least a couple tools.
For field stripping, the M9 is easier than a 1911. Not much, but it is.
The safety isn't backwards. In fact, it's not really a safety....still can't abide the backwards safety, though.![]()
I know -- I was making a 1911 fan's old joke.The safety isn't backwards. In fact, it's not really a safety.
What you're referring to as the "safety" is really the safety-decocking lever....