Who likes Berettas?

[bishopm14]

I will find out soon if I like them or not, as the M92A1 I purchased this week shipped out to my FFL today. Should pick it up next week and we will see.

As far as the safety not being a safety, hogwash. If being used as a decocker was the sole intended role of the safety, it would function only as a decocker lever and simply drop the hammer and not have an actual safe position, as the 92G series operates. The fact that there are factory produced variants of the 92 with safety levers, and variants with decocker only, indicates it is meant to be a safety.

I also really don't see the relevance of how the 1911 detail strips to a discussion of Berettas, and the ability to detail strip without tools is...trivial, at best? You would realistically never detail strip a pistol in the field where there was nothing but a cartridge available.

 

[Rastoff]

The fact that there are factory produced variants of the 92 with safety levers, and variants with decocker only, indicates it is meant to be a safety.

I wasn't aware of these different variants and have never seen one. Even so, the 92FS(M9) was indeed intended to be carried with the hammer down and safety off. That doesn't mean it's not a safety. It just means that it can be safely carried with the safety off.

 

[-db-]

I wasn't aware of these different variants and have never seen one. Even so, the 92FS(M9) was indeed intended to be carried with the hammer down and safety off. That doesn't mean it's not a safety. It just means that it can be safely carried with the safety off.

This is apparently something the Air Force stipulates. I Googled a number of USMC TMs earlier today and the Marine Corps manuals all state that the M9 is to be carried in Condition 1, which for this particular pistol is mag in, round chambered, hammer down and safety ON.

Thus, while the AF may choose to carry safety off, this doesn't necessarily mean the pistol is "intended to be carried with the hammer down and safety off", as you and others have stated. Other branches of the military carry it safety on, as did a number of LEO agencies back when they had the gun. The safety lever is obviously designed to operate as a safety for those who wish to use it, otherwise it would act as a decocker-only (which is available as an option, the safety-less G models, as bishopm14 pointed out).

 

[Rastoff]

This is apparently something the Air Force stipulates. I Googled a number of USMC TMs earlier today and the Marine Corps manuals all state that the M9 is to be carried in Condition 1, which for this particular pistol is mag in, round chambered, hammer down and safety ON.

No, my comments are not related to how the USAF carries the M9. In fact, they carry it in condition 3, empty chamber-hammer down-safety on. When qualifying with it I questioned the value of carrying a DA/SA this way and got an eye roll from the instructor. He said, "Yeah, I know it's stupid, but that's what 'they' want. They believe it's safer this way."

My comment "it's intended to be carried..." is toward any DA/SA gun; not just the 92FS(M9). I guess I shouldn't say it that way because I don't really know what the manufacturer "intended" when building the gun. I only know that that way is the fastest to deploy when using it for self-defense.

Plus, my original comment was intended as a jab at what Hapworth said which was a jab at us old crusty 1911 guys. So, in the end, this is all really a moot point.

 

[Hapworth]

Plus, my original comment was intended as a jab at what Hapworth said which was a jab at us old crusty 1911 guys. So, in the end, this is all really a moot point.

Actually, mine was a jab at the 92FS/M9 on behalf of us old crusty 1911 guys, so we're all sailing the SS Confusion now...

 

[Rastoff]

Well said.

 

[jdyer225]

I love the look and feel of Berettas I just can't get used to the DA/SA trigger. I still would like to own the 92FS maybe my next gun purchase.


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[sigp220.45]

No, my comments are not related to how the USAF carries the M9. In fact, they carry it in condition 3, empty chamber-hammer down-safety on. When qualifying with it I questioned the value of carrying a DA/SA this way and got an eye roll from the instructor. He said, "Yeah, I know it's stupid, but that's what 'they' want. They believe it's safer this way."

My comment "it's intended to be carried..." is toward any DA/SA gun; not just the 92FS(M9). I guess I shouldn't say it that way because I don't really know what the manufacturer "intended" when building the gun. I only know that that way is the fastest to deploy when using it for self-defense.

Plus, my original comment was intended as a jab at what Hapworth said which was a jab at us old crusty 1911 guys. So, in the end, this is all really a moot point.

When I carried an M9 as an Air Force SP it was chamber-loaded with the safety in the off position.

 

[Rastoff]

When I carried an M9 as an Air Force SP it was chamber-loaded with the safety in the off position.

Yes, different for Security Forces.

 

[YogiBear]

Aloha,

Wife and I have no problems with the DA first shot.

Just a matter of getting used to it.

Just like DA on a Smith.

All of our Berettas have the standard hammer spring, no D springs.

All our Berettas are box stock with No modifications.

 

[bishopm14]

Well, put me in the "loves it" category. Took the new 92A1 out today and put 150 rounds through it. Very accurate, almost no recoil, and reliable. I see some night sights, dedicated light, and other minor mods in its future.
And mags. Lots of mags.

 

[Nick B]

Well, put me in the "loves it" category. Took the new 92A1 out today and put 150 rounds through it. Very accurate, almost no recoil, and reliable. I see some night sights, dedicated light, and other minor mods in its future.
And mags. Lots of mags.

You'll want to buy the 18 round MecGar mags .

 

[Cruiser1]

Picked up this 92G Brigadier Elite recently; look forward to getting it to the range this week. Priced have really shot up on these on GB recently.

 

[budrock56]

I have a 92FS. I got it only as an example of a DA/SA for my pistol class. While they are super reliable, they are not the best choice for self defense. Having two different trigger pulls is not the best for consistency. If it is going to be carried, it must have the hammer down. This means the first pull will be about 12lbs and subsequent pulls about half that. This makes learning the trigger more difficult. Can it be shot well? Absolutely, I know a few guys that do it. It's just not the best, especially for new shooters for self defense.

Now, if you want to talk about shotguns, then I like Beretta very much. I believe the 303 is one of the best semi-autos ever made. And, who doesn't like this:

Nice gun. I have a Silver Pigeon V 20 ga. For Quail, Pheasant and skeet. Love it.

 

[Texas Star]

Nice gun. I have a Silver Pigeon V 20 ga. For Quail, Pheasant and skeet. Love it.

That 's the Silver Pigeon in the pic? Is it a boxlock with false sideplates? Very nice looking gun.

I have an English acquaintance who inherited a pair of Purdeys from her father, but she usually shoots a Beretta. One of her favorite game birds is woodcock, like those seen in the engraving of this gun.

Thanks for the photo!

 

[Papa Larry]

Picked up this little gem today. Made in 1968. Bought three boxes of ammo, and now off to the range tomorrow or Friday. Looking for a second mag, now.

Looks like the one in my safe. Mine is also made in 1968. Bought mine in 1971 from another guy getting out of the Army.
Paid him his asking price, $40.

 

[Rastoff]

That 's the Silver Pigeon in the pic? Is it a boxlock with false sideplates? Very nice looking gun.

I don't remember where I got that pic. However, yes, it's a box lock with false side plates. It is a Giubileo which is really just a finely engraved and tuned 687.


This one is a side lock:

 

[mbliss57]

Model 86 Tip up 380acp


Another 86 tip up



Beretta 21A .22short Tip up


Beretta 92FS


Missing: Beretta 85FS

 

[gen3guy]

I have an 84FS that I bought new in 2010. They don't show up on the Beretta USA Web site anymore. I wonder if they stopped importing them. I'm not much of a .380 guy but that model 84 is just cooler than cool. I also have a 1201FP 12 Ga. police shotgun. It's a helluva shoulder thumper and a very serious weapon.

 

[Texas Star]

I don't remember where I got that pic. However, yes, it's a box lock with false side plates. It is a Giubileo which is really just a finely engraved and tuned 687.


This one is a side lock:

Wow! Yes, that's a nice SO series gun.