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Bid on an auction online for an item, auction ended on the 12th and I paid for it immediately. Was notified by eBay that the item was shipped on the 17th. Sent media mail, no tracking number included. Said it was projected to be delivered by the 25th. The 25th came and went, no package, still no tracking number. Sent a message to the seller, he responded that he would look for the number. Asked again for the number, no response. My package finally showed up today, in good shape. HOWEVER, it says it wasn't sent until the 25th.

I have no issue with working with someone, and others have worked with me in the past on things. Be straight with me. Send me a message and say that it may be awhile before you can get to the post office to ship it. I can understand. Life happens. But don't BS me about it....

OK...rant over. Sorry...
 
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Is there a tracking number for media mail, one of the USPS's cheapest services? Also, FWIW, USPS tracking is THE worst tracking in existence. It has nearly no tangible value.
 
Sevens said:
Is there a tracking number for media mail, one of the USPS's cheapest services? Also, FWIW, USPS tracking is THE worst tracking in existence. It has nearly no tangible value.
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Yes, tracking is available with Media Mail. It is free if you print the shipping thru eBay or PayPal
 
I had someone on here do that to me when I bought a 625 MG gun. I paid with a Postal MO and got the same treatment. I think he held off shipping for like 3 weeks to make sure the check cleared.
 
I think many people do not understand honor anymore. To be a man of one's word is to be honorable man. Or woman, of course.

Thing is, a lot of people nowadays seem to just not care anymore about being honorable. Nowadays it often seems to be more about getting one over on the other guy.

I tell my boys — and this is not orginal to me — that no one can take your honor from you, ever. Only you can lose it. And, once lost, it is very difficult to regain.

And small things matter. If someone is not honorable in small things, why would one assume him/her to be honorable in important matters?
 
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Onomea said:
I think many people do not understand honor anymore. To be a man of one's word is to be honorable man. Or woman, of course.

Thing is, a lot of people nowadays seem to just not care anymore about being honarable. Nowadays it often seems to be more about getting one over on the other guy.

I tell my boys — and this is not orginal to me — that no one can take your honor from you, ever. Only you can lose it. And, once lost, it is very difficult to regain.

And small things matter. If someone is not honorable in small things, why would one assume him/her to be honorable in important matters?[/QUOTE


Onmea, is totally correct. Our society has become greed driven with a lack of personal ethics all to often.

Added: To go along with several other comments. DON'T tell me what you think I want to hear to me the truth.
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I had a book ordered from a neighboring state (think Atlanta to Tampa, an 8 hour drive) once shipped media mail. The window for delivery was four weeks (!). Well on week four plus one, I emailed the seller and they said they'd refund me. The next day the package showed up, and it literally looked as if it had been buried in dirt then dug up and placed on my doorstep!

I laughed my rear off, called the company and told them it had arrived, but they said not to worry about the refund. Since then, I've tried to avoid media mail.
 
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This package looked fine, not beat up or anything. The USPS website said that 8 days should be the max that it would take to get anywhere in the US from anywhere. Just the fact that he didn't ship it til 13 days after I paid for it and couldn't own up to it when I asked for the tracking number is what really irked me.
 
that is bad, but I've got one worse

as bad as that was, I got one that you're not going to believe. I'm going to post it soon.
 
LUCKY

Consider yourself LUCKY. I told a seller once I would take a 4" MDL 57 -- by the time I got home from work he sold it to someone who offered a bit more. Yeah, I am still steamed about it. Sellers have an obligation to keep their word as well. I would of gone a bit more if he changed his mind and ask. :mad:
 
The OP is so right on many levels.
Don't tell me what you think I want to hear. Often not unethical as thoughtless. Had a script filled for a mouth rinse. If it takes awhile no big deal, just don't tell me 20 minutes when you need 40.
Customer service seems like an afterthought.
 
I too have noticed our society is not near as honorable as in past years. People don't look at each other in the eye anymore, they are too busy with their head down on their cell phones. I am old enough to remember when a man's word and a hand shake was worth all the gold you could carry.
 
Quite some time ago I bought an M27 from this forum's classifieds. I sent him the money, he said he got my PMO and took the gun to his FFL with instructions to mail it immediately. He said I should get it in a couple of days.

Well, another week went by, no gun. So I sent the seller an e-mail saying I was getting a little concerned. I swear that's all I said. He took this as an insult to his honor and said something to the effect he would like to just undo the deal. He included his FFL's phone number with a comment something like "if you're so damn worried, call him!"

So I did call him. The FFL seemed like a nice guy but was a little ticked at being bothered. (I think he had a day job and was a part time FFL). He said he had just received the gun a day or two ago and usually only shipped on Wednesdays so hadn't shipped it yet. He also said the seller just dropped it off with no special instructions, certainly nothing about sending it out immediately. I don't know what to believe for sure but the FFL sounded like an honest guy.

Just like the OP, I would have been fine if the seller had just been honest with me. Maybe he had dementia or something, I don't know. But holy cow, don't tell me you shipped something when you haven't. There was no forum feedback in those days so no way to let others know about the guy.
 
I sell a bit of stuff on ebay. I almost always ship the items Priority mail. 3 to 4 days to almost anywhere in the US. I live in never never land...Wyoming. The package gets picked up goes to the post office in the next town.. and shows up on USPS tracking...goes from there to the next town almost always with no tracking..from there to Casper Wy...sometimes it will show in tracking after 2 days..goes from there to Cheyenne usually with no tracking.. from there after 4-5 days it gets to Denver...from Denver it usually shows up in the USPS tracking and after a week or sometimes more it arrives at the destination. Now...If I head up to Montana I can stop at Bridger MT PO and send it out...usually 2 days...sometimes 3 it will be at the destination...even in New England. Needless to say...if i have more than 2 or 3 packages I drive the 30 miles to Bridger Mt. The local postmaster used to love me. I sent more packages in 6 months out of his (part time) PO than the whole town did in a year. Sometimes living in a sparsely populated area has some downsides... The upside is ....no People
 
Are the people shady or is the tracking just inaccurate? eBay is not going to make a separate inquiry from the carrier's tracking. Like a Monty Python spoof, I have had tracking that got nearer then further and back again.
 
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Quite some time ago I bought an M27 from this forum's classifieds. I sent him the money, he said he got my PMO and took the gun to his FFL with instructions to mail it immediately. He said I should get it in a couple of days.

Well, another week went by, no gun. So I sent the seller an e-mail saying I was getting a little concerned. I swear that's all I said. He took this as an insult to his honor and said something to the effect he would like to just undo the deal. He included his FFL's phone number with a comment something like "if you're so damn worried, call him!"

So I did call him. The FFL seemed like a nice guy but was a little ticked at being bothered. (I think he had a day job and was a part time FFL). He said he had just received the gun a day or two ago and usually only shipped on Wednesdays so hadn't shipped it yet. He also said the seller just dropped it off with no special instructions, certainly nothing about sending it out immediately. I don't know what to believe for sure but the FFL sounded like an honest guy.

Just like the OP, I would have been fine if the seller had just been honest with me. Maybe he had dementia or something, I don't know. But holy cow, don't tell me you shipped something when you haven't. There was no forum feedback in those days so no way to let others know about the guy.
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When I bought my M&P, I did so from another forum.The gun started in New Mexico,so it had to be sent to my FFL, and he wanted it from an FFL. THe guy was irritated that i was asking about it, but did it. His FFL was a piece of work. At the time I went through a very small shop here, and he didn't have to ability to email his FFL info ( he does now ). He did, however, have a fax machine. The guy sending said that faxes are so 1950 and refused, so we had to mail it to him. When the gun finally showed up, it was just stuffed in one of those $5 if it fits it ships USPS boxes,no wrapping or protection of any kind.


HOUSTON RICK said:
Are the people shady or is the tracking just inaccurate? eBay is not going to make a separate inquiry from the carrier's tracking. Like a Monty Python spoof, I have had tracking that got nearer then further and back again.
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I'd say shady, since the auction ended on the 12th,he marked it shipped the 17th.He didn't provide a tracking number. The website said 8 days should be the longest transit time. I asked for a tracking number on the 25th or 26th.No answer. It finally showed up on the 31st. When it did, I looked up the tracking info. It took 6 days to get here, wasn't mailed until the 25th.
 
The reaction of the seller was out of line, but I will say that sometimes the shipping isn't in the seller's hands. E.g. the last gun I sold I took it to my FFL on a Thursday or Friday, and he told me that his pickup wouldn't be until Monday, and he would call me with the tracking number. So I told the buyer that. Then Monday rolls around and I didn't get a call. So I call on Tuesday, get a tracking number and mail it to the buyer. Then I check on line and the package was sent Saturday (not Monday), and got there on Monday.

Sure, it got there earlier, but the buyer may have made plans based on what I told him, and I could only give him the info I got from the FFL. Anyway, just wanted to say that sometimes you give out bad info because you are given bad info.
 
I make a living dealing with and reading people and it has turned me into a cynic and pessimist - But I have a great BS detector.

I've found that, in today's society, people simply can't be trusted - especially in urban areas. They will push things as far as they can get away with it. It seems like there are more and more sociopaths.

Honor and chivalry are pretty much dead thanks to permissive philosophies, people simply not being held accountable,or even knowing/understanding what responsibility is.

But, generally speaking, older folks know and understand what honor is. People of my generation, (gen X) and younger, not so much.

I hate that I'm like this, but for me, it's the best way to keep from being taken advantage of.
 
F75gunslinger said:
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Bid on an auction online for an item, auction ended on the 12th and I paid for it immediately. Was notified by eBay that the item was shipped on the 17th. Sent media mail, no tracking number included. Said it was projected to be delivered by the 25th. The 25th came and went, no package, still no tracking number. Sent a message to the seller, he responded that he would look for the number. Asked again for the number, no response. My package finally showed up today, in good shape. HOWEVER, it says it wasn't sent until the 25th.


This is just a lifestyle for many people. No vacation time at work, no money, no gas in the tank, no integrity.

I have no issue with working with someone, and others have worked with me in the past on things. Be straight with me. Send me a message and say that it may be awhile before you can get to the post office to ship it. I can understand. Life happens. But don't BS me about it....

OK...rant over. Sorry...
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I bought a front differential for a pickup truck on ebay. The guy said he'd ship it in the morning. About a week later, I asked why I hadn't seen it. He gave some lame excuse about work or something. This went on for several weeks. I finally told him if it was not shipped immediately, I was filing a claim with ebay. Shortly, he responded with a tracking number, and it arrived two days later. It worked great. You just have to build a fire under some folks.
 
The internet being what it is--sellers who may not have experience in sales or customer service, just your average John or Sue--do not understand the concept sometimes. If you want to be successful long term in sales, you quickly realize things they don't teach you in college. Be prompt to customer requests. Always communicate. Be true to your word. If you don't know, say so. Just bring civility.
 
Had a boss once who expressed it to his subordinates this way:

"Say what you mean. Do what you say. First time, every time."

Pretty simple, really.
 
I have had a guy tell me that they were waiting for a USPS money order to clear. This doesn't make sense unless perhaps there is forged USPS money orders.

The gun eventually showed up, I was beginning to suspect some type of scam. I was actually surprised when the gun arrived.
 
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I have had a guy tell me that they were waiting for a USPS money order to clear. This doesn't make sense unless perhaps there is forged USPS money orders.
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USPS MOs can be canceled just like a check, and then bounce. And, as you wrote, they can also be forged, although that is not nearly as likely as one being cancelled. In the best of worlds, one would take the MO down to the PO and cash it right there, but my PO never has enough cash on hand to cash a large MO.
 
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