Why does my recoil rod stick out so far on my BG 2.0?

[ImDrRich]

I got an email today being an add for the BG 2.0 in different colors and almost all had the guide rod protruding slightly.

 

[GnarlsR2]

If the spring cap is threaded into the inner rod, why would it NOT be fully seated at the end of the inner rod.
If the end cap is not fully seated, it is not normal.
That spring cap that is extended a few thousandths beyond the end of the slide is not a "standoff device".
I am concerned that it may be unscrewing from the inner rod.

 

[MikeNV]

If the spring cap is threaded into the inner rod, why would it NOT be fully seated at the end of the inner rod.
If the end cap is not fully seated, it is not normal.
That spring cap that is extended a few thousandths beyond the end of the slide is not a "standoff device".
I am concerned that it may be unscrewing from the inner rod.

To add to the confusion, I don’t think the retainer/cap on a BG2.0 recoil spring assy is threaded.

I’ve haven’t taken my BG2.0 recoil spring assy apart, but from a photo posted by Wheelin89 in thread https://smith-wessonforum.com/threads/bodyguard-2-0-guide-rod-recoil-spring.727095/post-142114216 , it looks like the retainer/cap is a press fit and not threaded like other M&P's.

It looks like a spiral knurled pin for press fitting.

So, this raises the issue of how much less than fully seated is acceptable? Last year I had called S&W about a 4" Shield Plus recoil spring retainer that had unscrewed about 1/16 of an inch. They said that shouldn't have happened and sent me a new spring assy.

 

[recppd]

Probably not if you just have a question. If your intent is to get a part, I would. They have already had my address when I've called for parts before - not sure if they link my phone number or caller-ID name to their database? But then I've bought 10 guns from them in the last 5 years.

I recommend registering any purchase with them using their online reg process - it's simple and only takes a few minutes. Your owner's manual says to have the model number, SN, etc. when calling (1-800-331-0852, ext. 4125). Rarely have to provide any details.

I called having not registered mine yet. They didn't even blink an eyelash, or even ask for a serial number. Let's hope this new one is a better fit.

 

[GnarlsR2]

To add to the confusion, I don’t think the retainer/cap on a BG2.0 recoil spring assy is threaded.

I’ve haven’t taken my BG2.0 recoil spring assy apart, but from a photo posted by Wheelin89 in thread https://smith-wessonforum.com/threads/bodyguard-2-0-guide-rod-recoil-spring.727095/post-142114216 , it looks like the retainer/cap is a press fit and not threaded like other M&P's.

It looks like a spiral knurled pin for press fitting.

So, this raises the issue of how much less than fully seated is acceptable? Last year I had called S&W about a 4" Shield Plus recoil spring retainer that had unscrewed about 1/16 of an inch. They said that shouldn't have happened and sent me a new spring assy.

Wow... I don't remember seeing that photo of the rod cap!!

Now I'm very concerned with that design.

This is another issue for me adding to the list regarding S&W's engineering designs.

One.... is there enough friction in that very short pressed-in knurled area to keep the rod cap from moving or popping off?

Two.... is the level of quality control questionable?

Three... why would S&W opt to NOT use a threaded end cap on a highly stressed guide rod spring assembly?

I will put another 300 rounds through it and I'll be measuring that end cap after every range day.

 

[Cheyenne WYO]

Somebody please post when their end cap goes flying off, along with the round count. I'm at 2000+ rounds through my first BG 2.0 and it hasn't happened yet. I usually replace RSAs in my Glock 42 and Sig P365-380 at 2500 rounds, so I should be needing to order another one for the BG 2.0 soon. I suppose I could tell them that my gun has the end cap sticking out and get a free RSA, but I don't work like that.

How many people will even put 2000 rounds through their BG 2.0s? For people buying factory .380 ammo, that is way more than the cost of the gun, maybe even multiples more depending on the ammo.

 

[GnarlsR2]

My BG2 will most likely not see more than 1500 rounds.

 

[CH4]

Sounds like you’re bragging

 

[GnarlsR2]

My BG2 will most likely not see more than 1500 rounds.

Nope… not bragging. Just answering Cheyenne WYO’s question.

Although I hit the range once or twice a month, I don’t shoot a lot of rounds. I typically bring 3 or 4 firearms with me and enjoy shooting all of them.

Just my anal thinking…. my defense carry handgun will probably not see more than 2500 rounds in its life as my defense carry. I prefer my defense carry to be as reliable and trustworthy as possible.

Does putting thousands of rounds through a firearm make it more reliable?

Does driving my truck many 10s of thousands of miles make it more reliable?

Why does Sig Sauer recommend replacing the guide rod spring assembly at 5000 rounds on my P365?

 

[cracker57]

This reminds me of when a friend bought a new jeep, he ran out of gas when the gauge read 1/8 of a tank. When he complained about it, they said öh that's normal for that model. He didn't like that answer and said it might be normal for this model but it don't mean your not going to fix it and make it right.
Just because you make something wrong and ever piece you manufacture is made wrong they would all be normally wrong. That don't make it right.

 

[ladder13]

Mine

 

[Cheyenne WYO]

I used my end cap as a push off device to open a wooden door in a barricade while maintaining a two hand firing grip on the gun during an IDPA match that I shot with the BG 2.0 today. No problem, and the gun even worked for the rest of the match and is sitting at home loaded with carry ammo.