Why is my SW99 so maligned?????

[faol]

I bought my SW99 in .40 from CDNN a few months ago. When it arrived, it was in like new condition. I took it to the range and it ate everything I put through it. It was comfortable to hold and quite controllable. So, why do people tell me that they're junk when I tell them that I use it for CCW?

 

[faol]

I bought my SW99 in .40 from CDNN a few months ago. When it arrived, it was in like new condition. I took it to the range and it ate everything I put through it. It was comfortable to hold and quite controllable. So, why do people tell me that they're junk when I tell them that I use it for CCW?

 

[Fastbolt]

People can be silly.

They can be prejudiced.

They can be misinformed.

They can have an agenda in promoting a certain belief.

They can substitute personal feelings for objectivity.

Etc., etc.

I carried an issued standard size SW99 chambered in .40 S&W for a few years. I own a similar one, although I haven't carried it in a long time because I just prefer a smaller gun. I still practice with a standard size SW99 .40 S&W upon occasion, though.

My SW99 compact chambered in 9mm is one of the most accurate and controllable compact pistols I own.

Once S&W helped figure out the original magazine body design was related to the early premature slide-lock issues in the .40 S&W pistols, and Walther worked with MecGar to redesign the magazine bodies and followers, the SW99 & P99 pistols chambered in .40 S&W made a fine choice for folks who liked that caliber and that pistol design.

I have no plans to ever get rid of my SW99 .40 S&W, even if I tend to favor the 9mm version a bit more.

 

[MattB]

Originally posted by faol:
I bought my SW99 in .40 from CDNN a few months ago. When it arrived, it was in like new condition. I took it to the range and it ate everything I put through it. It was comfortable to hold and quite controllable. So, why do people tell me that they're junk when I tell them that I use it for CCW?

From what I've seen in online forums there are two camps of nay-sayers on the .40 SW99s. There are the Walther/Euro snobs, who resent the SW99's existance and think anything made by S&W is inferior to someting made by Walther. There are also the .40 haters who complain about the perceived recoil. The 99-series is known for snappy recoil in .40, but by all accounts it's nothing uncontrollable.

 

[TDR911]

The S&W 99 is a great gun. MattB is right on the 2 camps.

 

[clang444]

"Well, if you aren't carrying a _______, your're an idiot..."

Fill in the blank with "Glock", "1911", "H&K", ".45", "a real Walther" etc. There is no reason in the world to listen of even talk to any of these people. They have an agenda, aand is more about convincing themselves then anyone else.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

SW99 is a good gun that most here would be glad to have.

 

[conn ak]

SW99 is a piece of junk and you should mail it to me for proper disposal.

 

[conn ak]

Originally posted by conn ak:
SW99 is a piece of junk and you should mail it to me for proper disposal.

Alright, alright...I'll throw in 2 Sigmas...

 

[Fastbolt]

A friend of mine bought his SW99 .40 about the same time I did.

He tends to shoot his more than I did mine, even though I did a fair amount of shooting with my issued one and my personally-owned one.

I had (and still have) to remind him to replace the recoil spring periodically.

I actually found sawdust inside his SW99 .40 one time when he brought it by for an inspection. I was a bit speechless about sawdust. Never saw that in a working gun before that day. Really wondered how the hell it had gotten in there.

I asked. Sort of nicely.

He just shrugged and explained that he'd been wearing it for a few days while out doing some chainsaw work on his property. He said he didn't know why I was so annoyed about the extra bit of dirt and some sawdust, because he'd just fired it before coming over and it had worked fine. Sigh ...

Anyway, it wasn't until his SW99 .40 had reached a bit past the 50,000 round point that I had to replace the sear housing block because of a broken ejector (molded into the Walther sear block). Not too bad. It seems reasonable that it had earned a new ejector by that time, I'd think.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by clang444:
"Well, if you aren't carrying a _______, your're an idiot..."

Fill in the blank with "Glock", "1911", "H&K", ".45", "a real Walther" etc. There is no reason in the world to listen of even talk to any of these people. They have an agenda, aand is more about convincing themselves then anyone else.

+1

There are a couple of forums out there where I hardly participate, or have deleted off my browser because they are full of jerks like that.

 

[TSQUARED]

I own and shooot the S&W 99 and the Walther P99QA, both in 9mm. I love both of them - extrememly reliable, surprisingly acccurate, and great ergonomics. What more can you demand of a handgun?

 

[Spotteddog]

I hope this is on a semi-related note?
How in Hell did the .40S&W chambering ever get a reputation as a "hard kicker"? Admittedly, I've only fired it out of two products (XD & Glock) but the difficult to handle aspect I'm at a loss to understand?

 

[hardcase]

Originally posted by conn ak:

Originally posted by conn ak:
SW99 is a piece of junk and you should mail it to me for proper disposal.

Alright, alright...I'll throw in 2 Sigmas...

Don't wind me up!

 

[MattB]

Originally posted by Spotteddog:
I hope this is on a semi-related note?
How in Hell did the .40S&W chambering ever get a reputation as a "hard kicker"? Admittedly, I've only fired it out of two products (XD & Glock) but the difficult to handle aspect I'm at a loss to understand?

.40 is a bit snappier than 9mm for lack of a better term. Is it any harder to control? Not in my opinion. However some platforms that were designed for the 9mm tend to feel quite snappy in a .40. The P99 comes to mind...interestingly the modifications to turn it into the SW99 apparently give the S&W guns better handling of the .40 round.

Getting back on the original topic, on Saturday I had the choice between a 9mm P99 AS and a .40 S&W M&P. I bought the M&P in part because the Walther forums I've found are filled with James Bond wannabes, Euro snobs, and .40 haters. I might have to pick up one of the cheap LE trade-in SW99s at some point though, they really are comfortable to hold.

 

[conn ak]

Originally posted by hardcase:

Originally posted by conn ak:

Originally posted by conn ak:
SW99 is a piece of junk and you should mail it to me for proper disposal.

Alright, alright...I'll throw in 2 Sigmas...

Don't wind me up!

Actually, I would trade him my used 40VE and 9F Sigmas. Nothing wrong with the Sigmas, but the 99 is a sweet pistol that has no problem grouping at 50 feet.

 

[ajaxx]

I have both, the SW99 and 990L and they are great pieces. Both are compact. The SW99 has the decocker, the 990L does not

 

[ajaxx]

and both are in .40cal

 

[faol]

thanks for the offer Conn, but I think I'll just hold on to my "little ol' junk" 99 for a while. I find it more comfortable than my issued G23 or my Steyr M40A1 (but the Steyr is real close).

 

[jughead]

i really wonder sometimes about complaints of hard recoil. i have never fired a handgun larger than 44 mag. i have fired up through a 50 bfg. rifle granted i was told scare tales of all. after 3 or 4 shots from any of them so far they were very controllable and not painful. i know all day with a 44 or a 50 bfg would probably get old, but a few rounds from any of them in a fun day of shooting come on get over it.