Why Oversized Throats??

From my perspective, early "pre-model number" target 45 ACP revolvers, (in other words the 1950 Target 45 and 1955 Target 45) were built as match grade revolvers. The whole point of the game was precision. These early guns have cylinder throats that, in my experience, mic at .452" - .453".
Just as important (and completely overlooked in this thread) is chamber depth!
You want the combined chamber depth and headspace of the cylinder to equal, but no exceed by more than a couple thousandths of an inch, the specific cartridge case length.
These revolvers (built right) shoot great, at least out to the 50 yd slow fire line.
But, there is a price: your ammo has to be perfect. If your cast bullets are oversize at all, if you're sloppy with bullet lube, cases are over or under length, or if your resizing isn't right, the cartridge won't seat properly. Using Auto Rim brass helps, if the headspace is right. Half or Full moonclips that aren't perfectly flat also cause problems.
I imagine that back then a lot of inattentive reloaders complained that their revolvers jammed or were sticky. The easy answer is to cut oversize chambers to accommodate sloppy ammo. The same issue exists when comparing hunting rifles and target rifles.
All some people care about is that their gun goes "Bang"!
The 45 ACP problem is simply more pronounced due to the fact that the chamber specs call for being able to headspace off the case mouth. Look in a 44 Special chamber and you'll see a taper from the cartridge chamber area to the throat.
That's a whole different ballgame....

Jim
 
From my perspective, early "pre-model number" target 45 ACP revolvers, (in other words the 1950 Target 45 and 1955 Target 45) were built as match grade revolvers. The whole point of the game was precision. These early guns have cylinder throats that, in my experience, mic at .452" - .453".

Yes, all else being equal I could see where oversized chamber throats could/would be considered problematic for precision shooters.

Has anyone ever gained knowledge as to why S&W would start out with oversized chambers for their military and commercial M1917 examples, only to tighten them up for early 1950/1955 target models and then open the chamber throats back up again on later target models?
 
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I'm looking for a 25-2 to buy. Suppose I am at a gun show and someone has one on a table for sale. What can I do to avoid buying a gun with oversize throats. Is there a simple/quick way to check that a seller would allow?
Thanks
Bob

Make or have a machinist make a stepped gauge pin maybe .451 up to .455
 
Take with you to the gun show a .451 .45acp jacketed bullet, a .452 .45 Colt jacketed bullet and a Hornady .454 swaged lead bullet. Drop them into the cylinder and you will have a good idea just what you are working with.........
 
My solution is
Get a 44 magnum cylinder and ream it to 45 colt with 452 throats.

All my 45 colts have .452 throats except my converted triple lock 455
I run oversized round nose bullets in it for 2 reasons. They size and all my round nose loads are light. My semi wadcutters are warmer
 

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