Why the SD is better value than a glock

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Enough said Glock has the highest profit margin around

Grip
Natural feeling grip Glock feels like you are holding a plastic 2X4

Slide Serrations
Glock is very slick and lacks front serrations

Sights
Real metal sights the front being night....glock has cheap plastic sights

Rail system
The glock has been know to shear rear rails with the SD the rear rails are part of the removable sear assembly making repair easy.

Factory extended slide stop
The Glock has a smaller one that most end up replacing

Index point on frame for trigger finger
Nice spot to place trigger finger on the SD glock none

Striker
Is not pre-cocked to the degree that the glock is making it more of a true DA
 
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We're all going to disagree because I prefer the M&P line.

I'm still going to add a SD9 VE to the collection because its piqued my curiousity.
 
Yea sorry but i'll take the proven track record of Gen 1, 2 and 3 Glocks over little things like plastic sights, which get changed out to night sights anyway.

As for price. I paid $350 for a G19 police gun with night sights and 3 mags. Ok the finish is not brand spanking shiny new but its my main carry gun not an heirloom.

Grip? Yea Glocks are a bit weird, at first. Took me 10 minutes at the range to get used to them. Also judging grips for 2 minutes at the gun store doesnt say much. Judge it when shooting 200 or more rounds. The best feeling guns are not always the most comfortable to shoot. You dont judge how a car performs by just sitting in it. You test drive to see if you like it

Besides that the reasons are trivial. Its like saying "I like car A because its blue"

My trigger finger goes on the same spot each time , on the frame right above and slightly forward of the trigger, regardless of gun. Dont really need a indent to let me know. Also my trigger finger goes on that same spot on rifles as well!! Go figure.

I'd also like to add that i'll take an M&P, FNX/FNP, Walther P99, PPQ over a SD but the topic was strictly about Glocks.
 
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Arik said:
Yea sorry but i'll take the proven track record of Gen 1, 2 and 3 Glocks over little things like plastic sights, which get changed out to night sights anyway.
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Agreed. If I were limited to just one firearm, even though I don't like Glocks, it would be a Glock 19 Gen2 or Gen3. All ergonomic issues aside, Glocks are proven to work in conditions that would cripple other firearms.


Arik said:
As for price. I paid $350 for a G19 police gun with night sights and 3 mags. Ok the finish is not brand spanking shiny new but its my main carry gun not an heirloom.
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Agreed. Outside finish isn't important in a every-day use firearm. It just needs to work.

Arik said:
Grip? Yea Glocks are a bit weird, at first. Took me 10 minutes at the range to get used to them. Also judging grips for 2 minutes at the gun store doesnt say much. Judge it when shooting 200 or more rounds. The best feeling guns are not always the most comfortable to shoot. You dont judge how a car performs by just sitting in it. You test drive to see if you like it
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This is where I politely disagree. A pistol's ergonomics directly affects the hand to grip interface. A gun can have a perfect operating track record, but if it doesn't fit my hand there's no point owning it.

I used to own a few Glock's (21sf, 17, 19, 22). I shot them all well. As you said, you have to conform to the grip. As the OP said, it's like holding a 2x4. When I got my hands on a M&P 9fs, I found the every-day firearm that fit me perfectly.

Because of that outstanding ergonomic fit, accurate shooting is more natural and effortless.

If the SD9 VE fits the OP perfectly, then that's the most important part.

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Besides that the reasons are trivial. Its like saying "I like car A because its blue"

My trigger finger goes on the same spot each time , on the frame right above and slightly forward of the trigger, regardless of gun. Dont really need a indent to let me know. Also my trigger finger goes on that same spot on rifles as well!! Go figure.
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Agreed.


Arik said:
I'd also like to add that i'll take an M&P, FNX/FNP, Walther P99, PPQ over a SD but the topic was strictly about Glocks.
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Don't get me started on the Walther PPQ. The PPQ has one of the best stock stryker fired triggers I've ever felt.
 
Arik said:
Yea sorry but i'll take the proven track record of Gen 1, 2 and 3 Glocks over
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Whats their motto "Glock perfection" lets see they are on generation 4 now sooner or latter then will get it right I guess. How are those recoil springs working out in the gen 4s oh thats right recalled....perfection???



Indiana State Police will receive new Glock 9 mm handguns as a result of functional problems with their current Glock 40
Defective state police guns to be replaced » Local & Bistate » News From Terre Haute, Indiana

Oakland Police Department recalls Glocks
Oakland Police Department recalls new guns, re-issues older Glocks | abc7news.com


Glock perfection
The Gun Zone -- More Glock Problems

Glock fail DEA frisbee test

Glock KaBoom

Defective guide rods 1999 in 26, 27

Rear rails sheared off..FBI replaced over 700 frames

Recoil spring recall



The difference is Glock makes one gun and one gun only. S&W has 160 years of firearm experience behind them. Id put my SD40 up against the G23 any day. Break ANY modern semi-auto apart they all look the same
 
What makes a Glock so much above all other guns? Nothing break an early Sigma down and a Glock they are the same except for price. Im not against poly guns I own several but they should cost less for what you get. Glock went mainstream because of an insane marketing campaign along with product placement. Almost any modern handgun can burn through 1000 rounds non stop.

Some fine examples of Glocks product placement, they even paid to be in the script

US Marshals

Sam Gerard: [Referring to the Glock as he is changing magazines]these
things are so cool.
John Royce: Yeah.
Sam Gerard: They shoot underwater! You can pour sand in them and
they'll shoot. Shoot every time. It's a good choice.


Sam Gerard: [looking at Royce's Gun] Got a back-up weapon?
John Royce: Never had the need.
Sam Gerard: Get one.
[hands back Royce's gun]
Sam Gerard: Keep it in your suit unless I tell you to take it out. Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel-plated sissy pistol.




End of Days

Jericho Cane: Between your faith and my Glock nine millimeter, I'll take the Glock.





Die Hard

"That punk pulled a Glock 7 on me! You know what that is? It's a porcelain gun made in Germany. It dosen't show up on your airport X-ray machines, and it cost more than you make here in a month."




Glock, was presented with the 2010 Lifetime Achievement Award for Product Placement having co-starred in movies big and small since the advent of crime films and shoot 'em up flicks. Brandchannel notes that Ashton Kutcher's 2010 film, Killers, devotes an entire scene to a Glock. Similarly, the 2011 edition of Glock Autopistols magazine gushes about the gun's role in Salt, "... when Angelina shares the screen with the Austrian super gun

So how does a product become a star in Hollywood? Like everything else in Tinseltown, it helps to have an agent. Or perhaps, more accurately an "entertainment marketing" guru. Cue Los Angeles-based Stacy Jones, president of Hollywood Branded Inc.

Glocks also appeared prominently in 22 #1 box office films of 2010. In addition to The Expendables, Inception, The Other Guys, Kick ***, and Takers, it also surfaced in Date Night, Red, The A-Team, Brooklyn's Finest, MacGruber, The Losers, Faster, Repo Men, Machete, Knight and Day, The Bounty Hunter, Edge of Darkness, Daybreakers, Legion, The Spy Next Door, The Crazies, and Green Zone.

It's impossible to know how many product placements Glock has secured since 1989. Easily thousands. But the brand certainly would not have come so far so fast without the invaluable product placements given it by Hollywood.
 
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Price
Enough said Glock has the highest profit margin around

Grip
Natural feeling grip Glock feels like you are holding a plastic 2X4

Slide Serrations
Glock is very slick and lacks front serrations

Sights
Real metal sights the front being night....glock has cheap plastic sights

Rail system
The glock has been know to shear rear rails with the SD the rear rails are part of the removable sear assembly making repair easy.

Index point on frame for trigger finger
Nice spot to place trigger finger on the SD glock none

Striker
Is not pre-cocked to the degree that the glock is making it more of a true DA
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I agree to disagree. The only statement I agree with is Glock needs to put better metal stock sights on their pistols. With that being said I also own an SD9. It will never out perform my Glock 17. Never!
 
TangoFoxtrot said:
I agree to disagree. The only statement I agree with is Glock needs to put better metal stock sights on their pistols. With that being said I also own an SD9. It will never out perform my Glock 17. Never!
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Disagree with what? The Glock has been know to tear off the rear rails when they switched the design, the Glocks lack front serration and are slicker in the rear than the SD, the striker is pre-cocked on the Glock, the Glock cost more, no finger index point on the Glock like the SD.


So again which part do you disagree about?
 
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I've never understood the "grip angle" thing.
I transition between Glocks and 1911's without notice. Perhaps because I use my sights?

I've shot action pistol, been issued a Glock as a LEO and have T&E'd the new S&W's while employed. I had the choice to carry my own pistol from 1911's to wheel guns.

I just took the free Glock and figured training was the most important aspect as long as my gun was reliable.

Emory
 
Grip angle has more to do with point and shoot, sure at the range it doesnt matter but if forced to point and shoot instinctively proper grip angle is critical as you dont hav eto force the gun on target.


Pick up a few of your handguns find a small target about 10yds away and just point the gun as if you were going to shoot. Some might be dead on some you will see are way off.


A prime example of this is the recent NYPD shooting that was more quick and instinctive, sadly they hit more than a few bystanders. But this shows that a gun you can draw on target fast and accurately will serve you better in a self defense situation.
 
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Sigma's are a $300 gun for the financially challenged. An illegal copy of a Glock. S&W was sued in court over this, & lost. They must now pay Glock $5 for each Sigma they sell. How many cops carry a Sigma? I've never seen one. 65% of all cops carry a Glock. Back in the day, lots of cops carried 59's, 659's, & 5906's. Those were the best semi's S&W ever made. I'm sorry I sold my 645, as it was a great gun. A Sigma won't even come near it. They can sell the Sigma for $300 as there were no R&D costs. They just copied a Glock. By the way, a store that sells a Glock for $500, is barely making $50. GARY N4KVE
 
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Sigma's are a $300 gun for the financially challenged. An illegal copy of a Glock. S&W was sued in court over this, & lost. They must now pay Glock $5 for each Sigma they sell. How many cops carry a Sigma? I've never seen one. 65% of all cops carry a Glock. Back in the day, lots of cops carried 59's, 659's, & 5906's. Those were the best semi's S&W ever made. I'm sorry I sold my 645, as it was a great gun. A Sigma won't even come near it. They can sell the Sigma for $300 as there were no R&D costs. They just copied a Glock. By the way, a store that sells a Glock for $500, is barely making $50. GARY N4KVE
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First this thread is not about Sigmas second some depts did issue Sigmas. More importantly who cares what cops use? How many in our military carry a Glock. All semi-autos are copies of the 1911. Not talking about the store profit why in the world would you even mention that Glock itself has a huge profit margin as they cost nothing to make.

Why do people type their screen name we already know it is at the top no need to type it again?
 
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