Why would anyone buy a Sigma instead of a Glock?

Glock

Hand fit is better for me and no trigger pinch which happened with my previous Glocks.

Either gun can be good for those who can use them.

jed
 
I'm just going to go along with the chorus here...

Reasons I went Sigma over glock:

1) Grip, in hand feeling
2) American Made - being my first hand gun I didnt know much, but I did know S&W was a brand to trust
3) Price + rebate offer!
 
I impressed myself with my Sigma today. All of us own firearms were I work. We had a mental health day at work today. :) In our warehouse we setup a 15 yard shoot with a very large 1" boiler plate 45 degree back plate with a 8' x 8' x 24" ditch tray. I shot off rest 1.5" groups with the Sigma. 1" groups with the CZ-52. I out shot the co. owner and his XD .45 with the Sigma. :) A 6K$ collector Luger was not in the game. But a Hi-Point 9mm shot close to me in 8 round groups against the Sigma. I took the day with the Sigma.

1st place Sigma,,,,, Thank God!!!
2nd place a Colt .44 SAS shooter!!!
3rd place the Hi 9mm.

All the rest cost twice to 3 times the cost of 1st and 3rd. A few of us are going to shoot in the morning on private land. Got to teach the G folks how to shoot. LMAO!!!!!!!
 
Here are my reasons:
1. Awesome ergonomics.
2. Accurate.
3. Shoots lead bullets, without having to buy an aftermarket barrel.
4. Uses high quality stainless mags.
5. Great customer service, lifetime warranty.
6. Made in USA.
 
Here are my reasons:
1. Awesome ergonomics.
2. Accurate.
3. Shoots lead bullets, without having to buy an aftermarket barrel.
4. Uses high quality stainless mags.
5. Great customer service, lifetime warranty.
6. Made in USA.

Serious .. you have gotten unjacketed lead bullets through it !! I wouldnt do it because I wouldnt want to clean all the lead but .. it would be pretty impressive if it would.
Alex
 
Well this being my first post I guess this is as good of place as any. After much deliberation I recently got a sigma 40. My parents college graduation present to me. Although its been so cold and snowy I have had no opportunity to shoot it. I do love the way it feels, and the lifetime warranty is a good bonus too.
 
Serious .. you have gotten unjacketed lead bullets through it !! I wouldnt do it because I wouldnt want to clean all the lead but .. it would be pretty impressive if it would.
Alex

Cast bullets are dead cheap and shoot just as good as jacketed. I shoot them through all my pistols and almost exclusively through my 1911's.
 
Main reason MADE IN USA

We give enough of our money away
 
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Glock stole every design feature in thier pistols, so i really don't understand why everyone thinks they were so "revolutionary".


Let's face it - almost everyone who came along after John Browning "stole" some design features.

The Glock has, essentially, the operating system of the Austrian 1907 Roth-Steyr, the tilting barrel locking of the Browning High Power, the use of the barrel hood for locking instead of lugs on the barrel and corresponding machine cuts in the slide from the SIG Sauer 220, the polymer frame of the Heckler and Koch VP70Z, the high capacity magazine of the Browning High Power, the firing pin safety of the Walther P4, and I guess I could go on and on.

The "feature" which was the subject of the Glock v. S&W lawsuit is the feature described in the Glock patent as the "positive guide means," which, if I understand the documents correctly, is the "shelf" on the left side of the Glock frame which prevents the cruciform sear from dropping out of engagement with the lug on the firing pin until the moment of firing, which Glock refers to in its literature as the "drop safety" (since it prevents the sear from "dropping" out of engagement with the lug on the firing pin safety before the moment of firing).

Just why it is called a "positive guide means" in the patent documents is a mystery except that engineers sometimes call a part one thing when designed and another thing when it is presented to the public.

The fact that Glock felt it had a legal claim when you look at the inside of the two pistols was a mystery to me, but then again, I am not a patent attorney, nor am I the inventor of the Glock pistol. I suppose if I were Gaston Glock, I might think my idea had been infringed upon also.

While parts may not interchange, the way the two uppers work is identical. That said, there is nothing in the upper that is really so unique as to deserve a patent.

The lowers on the Glock and the original SIGMA 40F just did not look enough alike or operate the same to my amateur eye to justify a settlement, but sometimes settlement decisions are made based upon other factors (cost of the suit, etc.).
 
I love my S&W's but went with G-29 for CCW over Sigma for two reasons, looks and it's 10mm of thunder. :D

Also I like the accuracy and trigger, it can be stripped bare of all parts and put back together by trained blind monkey. :eek::p

Shoots LSWC with better accuracy then my 610 5" and stays cleaner in the process and lot easier to clean.

Down side is no manual safety unless installed by end user like I have done. I would love a full sized M&P 10 mm and would buy one in a heart beat.
 
I've owned 2 Glocks and my 40ve out-performs them all after a few minor mods to the 40.
 
I love my S&W's but went with G-29 for CCW over Sigma for two reasons, looks and it's 10mm of thunder. :D

Also I like the accuracy and trigger, it can be stripped bare of all parts and put back together by trained blind monkey. :eek::p

Shoots LSWC with better accuracy then my 610 5" and stays cleaner in the process and lot easier to clean.

Down side is no manual safety unless installed by end user like I have done. I would love a full sized M&P 10 mm and would buy one in a heart beat.
Thought you weren't supposed to fire lead out of the glocks? Did you have to spend more money for another barrel to do that?
 
Thought you weren't supposed to fire lead out of the glocks? Did you have to spend more money for another barrel to do that?
No it's stock barrel. There have been 22 rim-fire rifles with polygonal barrels for years shooting lead in some very high end target rifles. It all about correct powder and proper cleaning.

You don't shoot lead at 1200 to 1600 FPS, I load my hard cast 170's so they will only be in 900 to 1100 range. Makes for pleasant day at the range, and hand and wrist still functional next day.
 
"Down side is no manual safety unless installed by end user like I have done." Simply out of curiosity, why would anyone want a manual safety on a pistol? It's not going to fire unless you pull the trigger or fail to properly handle the pistol. And in that case, no safety will prevent accident if one is not safely handling a pistol. Sincerely. brucev.
 
Here are my reasons:
1. Awesome ergonomics.
2. Accurate.
3. Shoots lead bullets, without having to buy an aftermarket barrel.
4. Uses high quality stainless mags.
5. Great customer service, lifetime warranty.
6. Made in USA.

Couldn't agree more with this post. I bought the S&W 40VE over the Glock, and I'm glad I did.
 
"Down side is no manual safety unless installed by end user like I have done." Simply out of curiosity, why would anyone want a manual safety on a pistol? It's not going to fire unless you pull the trigger or fail to properly handle the pistol. And in that case, no safety will prevent accident if one is not safely handling a pistol. Sincerely. brucev.
It's not as simple as you say, but I will attempt to enlighten you.

First for my part the gun is CCW that is often carried in right front pocket where it would be easy in a emergency to accidentally have the 3.5 lb trigger snagged or pulled. The gun is also a car gun and if not being carried is in a cubby box ender front edge of the Benz and could be accidentally pulled when trying to get it out.

Also all my life I have always had 1911's or other auto's and manual safety is heavy ingrained or trained after 50 plus years and I don't really feel safe w/o the safety. If G-29 had a 10 or 12 lb long throw like my 6 revolvers it would not need the manual for a pocket gun, but it don't and I am trained to have one.

Well that about covers it and hope you have understood where I am coming from. But just remember you are human and sometimes we have lapse of training and that's why every once in a while a LEO trained on Glock will either shoot self or send a round down range by accident when stumbling or the excitement of the moment.

Any more questions?

PS: I was not offended and don't mean to offend but often do when writing. However I am sure if you're not offended someone here will be because this is a S&W forum and I am what some would say praising a Glock. I only own one Glock a G-29 and have put off several years on buying the G-20 waiting for a M&P 10mm, but have about given up and thinking about buying the G-20 this spring or summer.
 
No it's stock barrel. There have been 22 rim-fire rifles with polygonal barrels for years shooting lead in some very high end target rifles. It all about correct powder and proper cleaning.

You don't shoot lead at 1200 to 1600 FPS, I load my hard cast 170's so they will only be in 900 to 1100 range. Makes for pleasant day at the range, and hand and wrist still functional next day.
Thanks for the clarification.
 
Hey Old Navy. I followed your logic on the preference for the trained usage of a safety on a 1911. Are you also making the point, maybe not on purpose, for why the Sigmas have long strong triggers in DAO? Being an old revolver guy, I remember 30 years ago taking a .357 to a gunsmith and asking him to lighten the trigger. When I got it back, it was silky smooth, but still heavy. When I complained about it he said "son, that is a .357 and you better MEAN it when you pull this trigger."
 
I own a sigma and have owned 2 glocks and i shoot just as good as i did with the glock.Glock is over priced in my opinion and i no longer own my glocks and i would recommend a sigma to anyone.I like the extra magazines and the lower price. A glock is a good gun but i like my sigma.
 
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