BOB THE PALINDROME
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My wife is able to manage the slide on a Sig 232. You might have here try one. Another thought is a S&W .32magnum.
Woman and semiautomatics
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BarbC
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My ex showed me his new Kimber Ultra Carry. I had been admiring this pistol from afar for a while. I simply could not rack that slide back. I suppose sitting behind a steering wheel in a vehicle didn't help. But although I really like the looks of that Kimber, I know it's not the gun for me.
7shooter
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Last night in the Carry Permit class I help teach we had 10 women. A friend from the state patrol and I taught the loading and unloading module for both pistols and revolvers. The women ranged in age from around 30 to mighty close to 70. Every one of them could load and unload the S&W 45 semi auto. While this is not always the case for our class we have noted an improvement in success by using more forceful gun handling techniques. We have them load the magazine into the gun with gusto and most importantly have them hold the slide tightly with their support hand while pushing forward fast with their dominant hand and then letting go of the slide letting the recoil spring do its job. The push with the dominant hand strategy works much better than the pull back with the non-dominant hand idea we taught before.
straightshooter1
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I find women who have never shot are far better at shooting in the classes I teach than the "old guy" who claims he knows it all.
As to revolver or semi, most shoot the semi better and, once they "figger it out" can rack the slide without a problem. Takes a bit of fiddling to get the right grip and to push/pull.
Bob
As to revolver or semi, most shoot the semi better and, once they "figger it out" can rack the slide without a problem. Takes a bit of fiddling to get the right grip and to push/pull.
Bob
nicky4968
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My guess is that "rack" is onomatopoeic. Like "Boom" or "Splat".
Hard to find, but Beretta did make a tip-up .380, the model 86. No one should attempt to take one apart.
As far as racking the slide, I prefer to use the term "slingshot" when showing a novice how to rack it, or charge the weapon, or whatever term you wish to use. I find that descriptive term better explains the action and the amount of force required.
Just my attempt to burn up more bandwidth.
Hard to find, but Beretta did make a tip-up .380, the model 86. No one should attempt to take one apart.
As far as racking the slide, I prefer to use the term "slingshot" when showing a novice how to rack it, or charge the weapon, or whatever term you wish to use. I find that descriptive term better explains the action and the amount of force required.
Just my attempt to burn up more bandwidth.
i bought a 642 as my first gun because its easy to use and maintain. my wife can use it, but she didnt like the recoil or trigger. and she didnt feel comfortable racking my sigma 9mm. the easy solution was a beretta model 21a which has a tip barrell. sure its only a .22, but she feels comfortable and can shoot it very well.
marine2541
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Mrs. Marine carries a S&W 640 loaded with .38+P rounds. She has a pink crimson trace laser grip on it as well (she thinks it's pretty). She loves the gun, and to tell the truth, so do I. I carry a 442 with crimson trace grips and it is brutal even with +P's. The heavier 640 tames it right down. I'd keep it simple and stay with a steel framed S&W revolver. Too many things can go wrong with a semi.
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My dear wife was packing a Luger when I met her, and while she snapped that toggle with vigor, more modern semis have been a problem. We resolved that issue with a M67.
7shooter has the answer. The methodology in which the female "push's" the slide back, not trying to pull the slide back. In a citizens police academy hands on shooting class, the dozen women in the class, all ages, could "rack" the slide. By placing the weak hand on top of the slide, and grasping it with the whole hand, and pushing it back, while pushing the strong hand forward. It's a push with each hand toward each other. Push the slide as far back as you can then let go.
The class was with Glock's.
The class was with Glock's.
BarbC
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This may be a stupid question but why can't slides be opened by a push of a button, like the slide release button or the magazine release button?
Not being a gunsmith I'm gonna say it's probably because something has to push the slide back against the spring tension. I'm sure something can be made to do that but it would involve adding more parts and complicating the weapon even more.
BarbC
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But what about even something as simple as a bolt-action rifle? Is there a bolt-action pistol?
Oh - heh - there actually are: H-S Precision Pistols
240grJHP
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Barb,
The recoil spring that operates the slide is the strongest in the gun. A spring that would push back the slide would have to be stronger to overcome the recoil spring. Also, that spring would have to be disengaged when the pistol is firing or the slide would not move. Perhaps a lever arm could be incorporated that would use mechanical advantage to force the slide back. In any case, there would be more parts, complexity, and mechanical failure. Maybe some Mechanical Engineer could come up with a device that could be placed on the gun to move the slide and removed later.
The recoil spring that operates the slide is the strongest in the gun. A spring that would push back the slide would have to be stronger to overcome the recoil spring. Also, that spring would have to be disengaged when the pistol is firing or the slide would not move. Perhaps a lever arm could be incorporated that would use mechanical advantage to force the slide back. In any case, there would be more parts, complexity, and mechanical failure. Maybe some Mechanical Engineer could come up with a device that could be placed on the gun to move the slide and removed later.
nicky4968
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una palanca
Women & semiautomatics? I haven't decided on men and semiautomatics yet! I thought this was an S&W forum!
Don't get me wrong - a Model 41 is OK if you're playing target games, and a Model 61 is OK as long as it's nickeled and your pants are flared.
BTW, the HS Precision "pistols" are the real thing. Easily outshoot most rifles at 100yd, 200yd and, presumably, greater distances.
Don't get me wrong - a Model 41 is OK if you're playing target games, and a Model 61 is OK as long as it's nickeled and your pants are flared.
BTW, the HS Precision "pistols" are the real thing. Easily outshoot most rifles at 100yd, 200yd and, presumably, greater distances.
Quote: My dear wife was packing a Luger when I met her, and while she snapped that toggle with vigor, more modern semis have been a problem. We resolved that issue with a M67.
You lucky dog, you. A friend of mine once taught his 9 year old daughter to shoot and field strip his Beretta 92. One thing about autos is that if they aren't held properly, they might not fully cycle. Anyone, regardless of gender, who is not a very experienced gun handler, doesn't need to have a "stovepipe" situation at a bad time. No one does, really.
You lucky dog, you. A friend of mine once taught his 9 year old daughter to shoot and field strip his Beretta 92. One thing about autos is that if they aren't held properly, they might not fully cycle. Anyone, regardless of gender, who is not a very experienced gun handler, doesn't need to have a "stovepipe" situation at a bad time. No one does, really.
