Woman driver who shot biker found guilty

[willy]

According to law she couldn't shoot because the threat was over. That is a stupid law. As long as that motorcycle rider is alive people will be threatened and are in danger. The next time the car driver may not have a gun and will be beat up or maybe killed. Larry

Good point!
Infact it might be a good thing to shoot anyone that cuts you off in traffic too!
Because who knows ,,maybe next time they cut someone off it might cause an accident where a innocent person could be hurt or killed!
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ARE YOU REALLY SERIOUS!!!!?
Someone mouths off to you,, and you are so scared you are in fear for your life?
The biker didn't have a weapon ,didn't do anything more than confront the shooter.
Are you riding around with your finger on the trigger 100% of the time or what?
This kind of thinking gives CCW holders a bad rep to those that don't carry!

 

[Knightrider03m]

He was wrong for getting off his bike but at the same time, she was wrong for shooting him.

 

[Gun-runner]

I agree with the verdict but have to say this guy is a moron. These days you don't know who you are dealing with. He wasn't hit by her SUV but he still needed to go and confront an idiot driver.
Can you imagine the B.S you would have to deal with if you confronted every moron on the road?

 

[armkev]

Good point!
Infact it might be a good thing to shoot anyone that cuts you off in traffic too!
Because who knows ,,maybe next time they cut someone off it might cause an accident where a innocent person could be hurt or killed!
--------(SARCASM MODE OFF)----------

ARE YOU REALLY SERIOUS!!!!?
Someone mouths off to you,, and you are so scared you are in fear for your life?
The biker didn't have a weapon ,didn't do anything more than confront the shooter.
Are you riding around with your finger on the trigger 100% of the time or what?
This kind of thinking gives CCW holders a bad rep to those that don't carry!

How could she have known if he was armed or not. And had he been armed, the second she lowered her weapon she couldve been shot. I would have decided in her favor because he amped it up by confronting her. Would he have been shot had he remained on his bike and simply ridden away? Doubtful.

 

[safearm]

While I agree the verdict is right, I don't agree that the defendant was wrong in her actions up to the point where she pulled the trigger. If a person who I don't know, who is stopped in front of my vehicle in traffic, gets out of their vehicle and approaches my window in an "aggressive" manner, particularly after some alleged/perceived incident, I'm probably going to have a gun in my hand, IF there is no other way to escape the confrontation.
If the "aggressor" backs off upon seeing the gun, I'm departing the area for the nearest LE facility to report the incident. If not, I'm going to do what I have to do to protect myself and my passengers.
In this case, I think the motorcyle rider instigated the event, but the defendant did not have the justification to use deadly force. I also think that the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, did not come out at the trial.

 

[armkev]

When he started backing off I think I wouldve put the car in drive and drove right over his motorcycle. Stop and call the cops down the road. If he feels the same way about his bike that I did about mine, that would be worse than getting shot.

 

[animalmother]

It took two dummies at the dance to create this situation.

 

[indiandave]

I would never get off my bike to confront someone.I have been cut off and tailgated many many times. It's better to take an exit and get off the road and let them bother someone else.There is no winner in the road rage game. Better to not let it happen.

 

[xcpd69]

In the thirty years I rode motorcycles, I had many instances of close calls due to drivers with HUA or just plain stupid. Including a buttload of tailgating. It is far better to use the speed and manuverability of a bike to disengage and go on your way, than to play stupid games you are quite likely to lose.

I once had an idiot in a semi tailgate me, on the Interstate late at night, in the middle of nowhere. 4 lanes, I was in the slow lane and no traffic, yet he wouldn't pass, even when I slowed down. I slow down, he slows down. I speed up, he speeds up. This goes on for for a mile or two, then I use my first evade attempt. While at the speed limit, or a bit above, with him right on my ass, I abruptle change lanes without signalling, then slam on the brakes. He shoots on by, I change lanes back behind and continue on at a slower pace. He slows until I catch up again. I pass and continue on, increasing speed until 5 over again. He catches me and hangs off my rear once again. No doubt whatsoever this is deliberate.

A cycle or two more of this and I've had quite enough. Once again I change lanes abruptly, slam on the brakes and slow to 50 mph, then pull back into the right lane. Predictably, he slows down yet again. This time I pull around him and drop the hammer. 100 mph for about 10 minutes ( I really WAS out in the middle of nowhere) and I figure, rightly, he won't catch me again.

Oh, and I was unarmed at the time, (No CC back then) and no cell phone (Not invented yet.) I don't know what this dickhead's problem was, but if I had had any real need to stop in a hurry, he would have run me down. Today would be different. I'd be armed.















And on the cellphone to the Highway Patrol, following the idiot until they showed up.

 

[tops]

Good point!
Infact it might be a good thing to shoot anyone that cuts you off in traffic too!
Because who knows ,,maybe next time they cut someone off it might cause an accident where a innocent person could be hurt or killed!
--------(SARCASM MODE OFF)----------

ARE YOU REALLY SERIOUS!!!!?
Someone mouths off to you,, and you are so scared you are in fear for your life?
The biker didn't have a weapon ,didn't do anything more than confront the shooter.
Are you riding around with your finger on the trigger 100% of the time or what?
This kind of thinking gives CCW holders a bad rep to those that don't carry!

Your signature says you hang horse thieves so they won't steal anymore. That is cruel, he probably had a bad childhood so you should give him another chance. You are assuming I have a CCW permit. I have never thought that I had to have the governments permission to carry whatever it takes to defend myself. My greatest fear is being a defendent in court and having someone with your mindset on the jury. You need to stay in Wonderland with Alice. Larry

 

[dmar]

Your signature says you hang horse thieves so they won't steal anymore. That is cruel, he probably had a bad childhood so you should give him another chance. You are assuming I have a CCW permit. I have never thought that I had to have the governments permission to carry whatever it takes to defend myself. My greatest fear is being a defendent in court and having someone with your mindset on the jury. You need to stay in Wonderland with Alice. Larry

Originally Posted by tops
According to law she couldn't shoot because the threat was over. That is a stupid law. As long as that motorcycle rider is alive people will be threatened and are in danger. The next time the car driver may not have a gun and will be beat up or maybe killed. Larry


Hey Larry, IMHO, I have to agree with Willy on this one. I should probably stay out of this dogfight, but it's too ripe to ignore. We are talking about taking deadly-force action when you decide to shoot someone. You are legally responsible, and I hope, morally responsible, to not take that action unless you are faced with risk of unavoidable and/or imminent death, or grevious harm. I don't believe that an A-hole, backing away from you with his hands in the air qualifies as such. He may be a lousy person, but he did not deserve to be (potentially) killed for the actions he demonstrated. The world may have indeed been a better place without him, but that was not her legal/moral right, in this situation.

Fear, alone, should not equate to taking someone's life. If you carry a gun you need to be clear-headed in assessing the situation in the context of the law. If he did not back away, I would agree with the action she took. I do think that she was justified in pulling the gun, but based on the facts presented, she was not justified in pulling the trigger. As for the kid, I believe his actions were a reflection of what he has been taught in life; little...

I'm not looking for snide insults as a result of stating my view here, I'm just exercising my perogative as a member of this forum in sharing my view. You shared yours, I disagree.

Again, no insult intended, and none expected in return; forum decorum .

 

[willy]

Your signature says you hang horse thieves so they won't steal anymore. That is cruel, he probably had a bad childhood so you should give him another chance. You are assuming I have a CCW permit. I have never thought that I had to have the governments permission to carry whatever it takes to defend myself. My greatest fear is being a defendent in court and having someone with your mindset on the jury. You need to stay in Wonderland with Alice. Larry

Yes, I do say to hang a horse thief so he doesn't steal anymore.
But I don't believe you should hang a person because he MIGHT steal a horse.
And in this case the biker didn't do anything wrong other than act like a A-hole.