Working up The Anemic .32 S&W Long Load

Hammerdown,

I do not know for sure, but I am searching for confirmation that you have attributed the writing of that cartridge discussion to the wrong person. If I am not mistaken, it was written by bmcgilvray, a member of this board and many others. Scott, aka Gunfan has been reposting some of those old "Cartridge Discussions". It is good information, and worthy of reading but I just wanted to let you know it may have been written by Bryan, not Scott. As I said, I am efforting the confirmation.


Hi Shaun;

I once did a "cartridge discussion" on the .32-20 but haven't yet produced one on the .32 S&W Long. Have a couple of .32 Long revolvers but haven't gotten a round tuit on test shooting and documenting results.

The .32 S&W Long cartridge certainly looks capable in its own right, lengthened-case Magnum .32 cartridges not withstanding.
 
Does anyone have an idea what the speed of the 98gr. LRN is with a full case of 3Fg? How much better is smokeless in this cartridge other than for fouling?
 
Ok, folks, this is how it is-

Many banned members were invited back a few months ago.
A general announcement was made across the board.
READ the announcements we make- they actually have a purpose.

There are actually two reinstated members in this thread.

You will never see one of the long, ongoing "crucifixion" threads on this board again. If we have a problem with a member, we deal with it and move on. There are no Coliseum games here.

If anyone does not wish to interact with any member on the board, simply use the IGNORE feature. Another option is to simply refrain from participating in a thread.

There are comments in this thread that do not need to be here. They serve no purpose other than stating the obvious or possibly rekindling old arguments.

Again- get past the past. We move on from here.
The old stuff is not playing again.
 
Quite logical Lee.

Just one thing. In order for some, and I'm not one of them so don't think I am speaking for myself, to move on an apology is often needed.

I appreciate your approach to these types of problems and I feel sure that they are based on your personal understanding of Judeo-Christian principles, much like our American founding fathers did.

It would seem that a way to minimize the rejection of some that are being reinstated would be to have them take the low road and apologize in private to those that have ought against them.

It is the responsibility of those that think others are offended at them to go and make it right, not the other way 'round.

Just a thought. Like I said, I really don't have a dog in this hunt other than knowing that some have had some real problems in this matter.
 
A sound principle, and good advice.

I have left it up to the individuals to decide. All members invited back were invited with no conditions to accept beyond obeying the Rules and making a good faith effort to get along.

I will not dictate an apology by anyone. Though I often feel like I manage a schoolyard, I will not make Billy apologize to Bobby and shake hands. If they ain't learned it by now, they probably ain't gonna get it.

We ask members to obey the rules and treat each other as they would like to be treated. Avoid any fight you can on the board- most are not worth the effort.
Simple process.
 
I know that this is a 4 year old thread, but...

I can't help myself when it comes to "those unloved .32's." It was Jan Libourel that began to dispel the belief that the .32 Long was "only suitable for dispatching rats."

When you think about it, the .32 H&R Magnum is one heck of a platform for personal defense. When loaded with a 100 grain SWC, (With a healthy dose of Unique behind it) a 4" barreled revolver would be pretty darned formidable! The deeper the "little .32" slug penetrates, the better.

Scott
 
Scott, thanks for resurrecting this thread and thanks Hammerdown for posting those two great articles where they could be found easily... I have already archived them in my computer. With Project 616 complete, I am now starting to consolidate my information about all of the straight sided 32 revolver rounds and whichever of my guns they can be used in.

Froggie
 
Anyone else have Sharpe's book? (It's pretty easy to find online in .pdf form.) I've gotten the .32 Long to get up and move, and have never had to go all the way up to his max loadings from the '30s.
 
Well here a year after the last post I'm here looking into the possibility of loading for a trio of .32 SW Longs, a 30-1 nickel I found in a Pawn shop and gave my son.

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A 31-1 4" I found recently in excellent condition and a I-Frame snubbie I'd picked up and posted about sometime back here. The 31-1 shoots factory WC's very well and all will group PPU 100gr RN into 4" and 15 yards which isn't great but I hope can be improved on. Thanks to those who posted this material.:)
 
Just for the sake of completeness, there is a long running thread posted as a sticky and going to 12 pages over on the Cast Boolits board here;

The .32 S&W Long as a man-stopper

I guess we all have to decide whether the 32 S&W Long (and which variations thereof) fill our needs. For fun, the cat sneeze WC and SWC loads in my little I-frames are fun, and in my K-frame and Blackhawk are gentle to use, and of course for SD work, I can go hotter for the S&W L or "graduate" to the H&R or Fed Mag. Man, I love those 32s! :D

Froggie
 
I appreciate Hammedown's discussion of loading the .32 Long and don't consider it to be too long in light of all the information covered. I have a 31-1 in practically new condition that I've shot factory ammo but have never handloaded for.

Throwing tiny powder charges has kind of bothered me. I was glad to see that the RL550B charger can handle small amounts of powder but are there other ways to get charges in without weighing them on a scale? Are there any other chargers that can throw tiny amounts quickly? I want to load for the .32 Long and the .32ACP for my Walther.

Thanks for any ideas and help. Many thanks to Hammerdown for his article.

Charlie
 
Hammerdown; I read & enjoyed every word of your post concerning the .32 Long. I bought my first one in the late '50's, a 6"" "I" frame used for 35 bucks. Started loading with a Lyman 313445 bullet & small charges of Bullseye. The loading manuals then weren't as complete as today.That little gun is long gone but had others along the way. Last one was a H&R 732 I gave my granddaughter. She's deadly with it. Now loading a 98 Gr. semi wadcutter with 2.4 gr. Bullseye. Not a barn burner but pretty darned accurate.Many Thanks for a great post.
 
I was searching for 32SWL reloading info and bingo!

I wish I could find some lead smaller than 100g around here. I hate to buy mail order because I feel I have to buy a pallet load to make it worth my time. Matts has a good deal 85 Grain Double Ended Wadcutter Tumble Lube (.315) [TL315-85-DEWC] - $9.00 : Matts Bullets
but they come .315. I haven't slugged any of these yet.

Question- assuming these .315 are soft, will the crimp pull them down a .001 or so?
 

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I was searching for 32SWL reloading info and bingo!

I wish I could find some lead smaller than 100g around here. I hate to buy mail order because I feel I have to buy a pallet load to make it worth my time. Matts has a good deal 85 Grain Double Ended Wadcutter Tumble Lube (.315) [TL315-85-DEWC] - $9.00 : Matts Bullets
but they come .315. I haven't slugged any of these yet.

Question- assuming these .315 are soft, will the crimp pull them down a .001 or so?

Hello Simmer Down
I Posted the Load's in this Thread and started the Thread. That said, I Load a lot for the anemic .32 &W Long Cartridge and feel as though the Bullets Matt Offer's at 0.0315" would work well in any S&W revolver. I hope this helps, Hammerdown
 
Thanks. I finally checked my gun. .312 throats and slugged at .312 using a .312 LRN

I'm probably losing a little oomph there along with cheating myself of the full benefit of rifling.
 
New to me load. I found a recpie that called for 1.8-2.0g of Hi-skor 700x for 100g lrn. I took some to the range today and they were not too bad.

Not a powder puff load but not a harsh snap. There's probably better language to explain this, I know there's worse. :eek:

The gun is a 1958 M30 with a 3". The mottled look on the side plate is the reflection of the trees overhead. I think the t-grip is designed for an N frame but the J frame size didn't fit the shape well.

I could keep them all in about 4x4" at 15yrds. I could hit a sheet of paper at 25yrds.

This is shooting one-handed and with an energy drink instead of lunch so I know some variaiton was me.

Anyhoo- nice load here. I noticed some 32SWL showing up on the forum and wanted to share.
 

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