Would the 2017 Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act Help "May Issue" Residents?

[bushmaster1313]

A Bill to provide Concealed Carry Reciprocity has been introduced:

https://hudson.house.gov/uploads/Concealed%20Carry%20Reciprocity%20Act%20of%202017.pdf

and who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides,
may possess or carry a concealed handgun

Have the commentators weighed in as to whether this would allow a resident of a may issue state to get an out of state permit and carry in their own state?

The introduction to the Bill would seem to imply that it would allow residents of a shall issue state to carry in a may issue state but that it would not allow residents of a may issue state to carry in their own state with an out of state license:

To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a means by which nonresidents
of a State whose residents may carry concealed firearms may
also do so in the State.

 

[LenS]

Since it states that said permit must allow you to carry in your home state, I doubt it. PA had that problem for Philly which was stingy in issuing permits to residents of that city, so IIRC they passed a law that basically prohibited Philly residents from carrying based on another state's permit. That is what I would expect to happen elsewhere too.

 

[Scott in NCal]

Speaking as a guy in a in a may issue state, it can't see how it would hurt. In effect the law would be that a nonresident from a shall issue satate can exercise a right, in this state, that is not generally avaliable to a resident. How could the most die hard crazy anti gun anti self defense state legislator defend that ? Even now it seems like a right avaliable to people in rural counties have and and urban counties dont. The equal protection / due process clause would has to kick in someplace. Right now we are in the ridicoulous position that, more or less, we have a right to own firearms, and transport them on our person, but it is illegal to carry them conceled, and it is illegal to carry them open. I dont get it either. I believe the federal courts will be friendly to California gun owners.

 

[LostintheOzone]

Speaking as a guy in a in a may issue state, it can't see how it would hurt. In effect the law would be that a nonresident from a shall issue satate can exercise a right, in this state, that is not generally avaliable to a resident. How could the most die hard crazy anti gun anti self defense state legislator defend that ? Even now it seems like a right avaliable to people in rural counties have and and urban counties dont. The equal protection / due process clause would has to kick in someplace. Right now we are in the ridicoulous position that, more or less, we have a right to own firearms, and transport them on our person, but it is illegal to carry them conceled, and it is illegal to carry them open. I dont get it either. I believe the federal courts will be friendly to California gun owners.

They weren't as recently as last year. You had shall issue and then boom, you didn't.

BREAKING: 9th Circuit rules against CCW, Peruta in 2nd Amendment carry case | Firearms Policy Coalition

 

[bushmaster1313]

I just saw that four reciprocity bills have been introduced.
Each a little different

 

[Whitwabit]

I think according to how the laws are written those with a non resident license and not a license from their own state may be left out .. if that is the case I for one would not be in favor of a law if any one was excluded !!

May issue states should be forced to change to will issue .. anyone wishing to acquire a conceal carry license should be able to !!

 

[elm_creek_smith]

They weren't as recently as last year. You had shall issue and then boom, you didn't.

BREAKING: 9th Circuit rules against CCW, Peruta in 2nd Amendment carry case | Firearms Policy Coalition

They don't call it the 9th Circus Court of Appeals for nothing. It has a reversal rate of around 80%.

 

[Arik]

Since it states that said permit must allow you to carry in your home state, I doubt it. PA had that problem for Philly which was stingy in issuing permits to residents of that city, so IIRC they passed a law that basically prohibited Philly residents from carrying based on another state's permit. That is what I would expect to happen elsewhere too.

Philly issued permits just fine since PA is a shall issue state. Problem was that Philly would drag their feet in hopes that the applicant dropped the idea. All my friends that applied were denied but with a appeal they were instantly give the permits. A few years ago, a class action law suit was filed....And won. The law was amended that did away with all that nonsense

1 Not to disclose LTCF applicant information either electronically or in-person;

2 Annual training of the Philadelphia Police Department and Philadelphia License and Inspection Board of Review on the confidentiality of LTCF applicant information;

2 Customer service training for the Philadelphia Gun Permit Unit;

3 Posting a copy of the LTCF Application Notice on its website and where LTCF applications and appeals can be submitted or obtained, as well as, providing a copy to anyone who has his/her LTCF denied or revoked;

4 The City will not require references on the LTCF application and will not contact any references listed on the LTCF application;

5 The City will not require lawful immigrants or US Citizens with a US Passport to provide naturalization papers;

6 The City will not require any applicant to disclose whether he/she owns a firearm during the LTCF application process;

7 The City will not deny an application because the applicant answered “no” to any question regarding whether the applicant had been charged/convicted of any crime where the applicant received a pardon or expungement from the charge or conviction;

8 The City will process all LTCF applications within 45 calendar days;

9 The City will remit $15.00 to any applicant who is denied within 20 days;

10 The City will not require LTCF applicants or holders to disclose to law enforcement that they have an LTCF, that they are carrying a firearm or that they have a firearm in the vehicle; and

11 The City will not confiscate an LTCF or firearm, unless there is probable cause that the LTCF or firearm is evidence of a crime. In the event an LTCF or firearm is confiscated, the officer must immediately provide a property receipt, which shall include the pertinent information



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