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I won't buy a new S&W revolver and I see them everyday in the LGS I work at!
Would you buy a new-production S&W revolver online (sight unseen)?
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Ribwizzard
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Yes I would
If your tr talking gallery of guns or kgc or the like, yes , definitely. But I would not order from some mom as pop internet sites, and I'll tell you why.
Revolvers that sit in cases at gun stores get handled.I see it all the time. I'll walk in to Bass pro or shoot straight and ask to see a revolver from the case and the guns always look best up. Sights look like they been dropped on. Cylinder already got wear ring on it. I looked at a 617 and the thing must have been dry fired 1000 times, chambers all beat up. 686 that was solid black on face of cylinder and forcing cone. Told them it was used and they denied it. Who knows how many times someone Cowboy'ed it closed. And that is what your going to get if you buy from them.
But a supplier like davidson's, your going to get one straight from the manufacturer that no ones even opened yet. That's what I want. And has worked out well for me 1/2 dozen times over the last 4 years. Every gun was perfect.
If your tr talking gallery of guns or kgc or the like, yes , definitely. But I would not order from some mom as pop internet sites, and I'll tell you why.
Revolvers that sit in cases at gun stores get handled.I see it all the time. I'll walk in to Bass pro or shoot straight and ask to see a revolver from the case and the guns always look best up. Sights look like they been dropped on. Cylinder already got wear ring on it. I looked at a 617 and the thing must have been dry fired 1000 times, chambers all beat up. 686 that was solid black on face of cylinder and forcing cone. Told them it was used and they denied it. Who knows how many times someone Cowboy'ed it closed. And that is what your going to get if you buy from them.
But a supplier like davidson's, your going to get one straight from the manufacturer that no ones even opened yet. That's what I want. And has worked out well for me 1/2 dozen times over the last 4 years. Every gun was perfect.
New Production S&W = Lock = HELL NO!
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pittpa
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Last time I took the third route, bought used, locally.
I've been finding lately that a lot of retail dealers in my area are matching internet pricing. For everything I buy I try to shop local with a current internet add in tow. They either match it or come pretty close. I would rather buy local if I can, but not to the point that I'm spending a lot more money. This has been true for firearms, appliances and other big and small ticket items.
WheelGunMagic
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Over the years, I've bought a number of S&W online with no problem. If there was a problem, both Buds & Davidsons have excellent return policies where they will replace the gun. And failing that, there's always S&W's life time warranty.
After considering all fees - the 'out the door' price - Davidsons is consistently $150-$200 cheaper then the local shops. That matters to my budget.
After considering all fees - the 'out the door' price - Davidsons is consistently $150-$200 cheaper then the local shops. That matters to my budget.
shouldazagged
Absent Comrade
I can no longer buy guns for financial reasons, but only once have I bought one online. It had to go back to the manufacturer, which fixed it very quickly.
That was my one deviation from a many-years-long policy of never buying a gun I couldn't examine thoroughly first. If I were to come into some money and be able to buy again, that would still be my policy.
Color me old fashioned.
That was my one deviation from a many-years-long policy of never buying a gun I couldn't examine thoroughly first. If I were to come into some money and be able to buy again, that would still be my policy.
Color me old fashioned.
I've bought new and used....
...but I always make sure that the seller has an excellent reputation and a lot of transactions from gruntled customers.
...but I always make sure that the seller has an excellent reputation and a lot of transactions from gruntled customers.
one eye joe
US Veteran
WE SMALL VOLUME VENDORS HOLD OURSELVES TO A HIGHER STANDARD, AS WELL. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR FIREARMS, IN THE NATIONWIDE FREE MARKETPLACE, TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN MAKING SUCH A PURCHASE. WE DO OUR BEST TO BE WORTHY OF OUR CUSTOMERS TRUST---TREATING PEOPLE LIKE WE WANT TO BE TREATED. OTHERWISE, WE WOULD BE RELEGATED TO SELLING OUR GUNS, THROUGH CONSIGNMENT AT A LGS.....
IN SUCH A SCENARIO, OUR GUNS ARE VIEWED BY A SMALL NUMBER OF BROWSERS, VERY FEW OF WHICH MAY ACTUALLY HAVE AN INTEREST IN OUR GUN. THERE IS PRESSURE EXERTED BY THE LGS TO KEEP ON LOWERING THE SELLING PRICE, BECAUSE ITS TAKING UP SPACE IN HIS SHOW CASE. THE LGS TAKES A SHARE OF THE PROCEEDS OF THE SALE, IF YOUR GUN EVER SELLS. THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO SELL A FIREARM.....
SALES ON THIS FORUM ARE A STEP UP---BUT THE AUDIENCE IS STILL MUCH SMALLER THAN GB. THE TRUE MARKET VALUE OF A GUN IS NOT REALIZED, AS IT IS IN AN AUCTION, BY THE PRICE THAT THE HIGHEST BIDDER, IS WILLING TO PAY FOR THE ITEM. THAT'S JUST ECON 101. THE INTERACTION OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND DETERMINES THE TRUE VALUE OF THE FIREARM, OR ANY OTHER ITEM---NOT WHAT SOME S&W FORUM "PUNDIT" SAYS IT IS "WORTH", OR THE BLUE BOOK SAYS THAT IT IS "WORTH". THE WINNING BIDDER, DETERMINED EXACTLY WHAT THAT GUN WAS WORTH......
HorizontalMike
US Veteran
New S&W Online?
Buy another S&W online?
... have TWICE in past 3yr.
BOTH had QC problems with the trigger. A DIY fix&lube took care of those, and I have kept them.
BUT, my most current purchase online was for a Kimber K6S. And yes, the QC issues I have had with current S&W purchases was a deciding factor in switching.
Will I buy another NEW S&W online in the future?... Probably not. Don't get me wrong, I like S&Ws. I still have my 686 No-Dash I bought new in 1986 (before online purchases were even heard of). If I buy another S&W, it will probably be on GB and be at least +20yr old... just sayin'
Buy another S&W online?
... have TWICE in past 3yr.
BOTH had QC problems with the trigger. A DIY fix&lube took care of those, and I have kept them. BUT, my most current purchase online was for a Kimber K6S. And yes, the QC issues I have had with current S&W purchases was a deciding factor in switching.
Will I buy another NEW S&W online in the future?... Probably not. Don't get me wrong, I like S&Ws. I still have my 686 No-Dash I bought new in 1986 (before online purchases were even heard of). If I buy another S&W, it will probably be on GB and be at least +20yr old... just sayin'
Well, I believe the Supreme Court just let that ship sail last week . . .
Dave from Pa
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
I resemble that remark.
Engieman
Member
yes...no problem with a new SW. I have both new and old, and I find the new to be every bit as good as 'old.' In fact, I think the tolerances and finish of my new 625 & 627 are 'better.' Can't beat the beauty and nostaliga of wood and blued metal, but the new are shooting machines.
DD357
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Same here.
Never say "never", but I never have, yet.
Any gun. I greatly prefer a hands on perusal and inspection. I'm lucky enough to have some exceptionally well-stocked, new & used, LGS nearby. If it was something I absolutely HAD to have, and there was no other way to obtain it..... maybe. But there's so many firearms available, i'd Probably just opt for something I could find to fit my wants and needs that I could hold first.
Any gun. I greatly prefer a hands on perusal and inspection. I'm lucky enough to have some exceptionally well-stocked, new & used, LGS nearby. If it was something I absolutely HAD to have, and there was no other way to obtain it..... maybe. But there's so many firearms available, i'd Probably just opt for something I could find to fit my wants and needs that I could hold first.
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