Would you carry a CZ P10C with the following design flaw?

[marathonrunner]

Hey Guys,

Got a question here. I Just learned the CZ P10C has a design flaw that could cause the firearm to not go fully into battery if the stricker is somehow allowed to be pushed over to one side. I have tried this on several other striker fired pistols, they cannot be pushed over with your thumb no matter how hard you try.

The CZ, however, you can take your thumb and the rear back plate is not strong enough to prevent the striker from rotating but according to CZ, it will straighten itself out every shot. So far the gun has never failed to fire or go into battery but would any of you trust a pistol that has this seemingly design flaw? It appears to work fine but the fact the striker can be easily rotated over to one side, thus catching on the frame is a concern

 

[BigBadWolf11B]

Nope.

Before making the decision on purchasing a 2.0 Compact, I did research on the 3 pistols I would pursue for EDC: P10-C, G19 and M&P 2.0 9C.

The Glock never really had my attention as I don’t believe it looks very appealing, ergonomics aren’t that great (in my opinion), everyone has one and tells you “it’s the best thing since sliced bread,” grip angle didn’t suit me, and it just felt wrong in my hand.

P10-C and 2.0 9C were, in my opinion, equals except the P10-C (I believe) has a much better stock trigger.

The downside of the P10-C is as you described, that inconsistency to function every time. So I went with the M&P 2.0 9C, it has all I want and the consistency to do what I need it to when I need it to.

 

[Wise_A]

I don't think I've ever had a pistol that I couldn't mishandle into a failure. Some are easier than others, including some very popular models that will fail to feed if you drop the slide in the wrong manner (slingshotting instead of using the slide release, or using the slide stop instead of slingshotting).

Have you tried to induce the failure? See what it would take. Only way to find out.

 

[growr]

So, your are dubious of a flaw/malfunction in a highly renown handgun that YOU induced and call it a CZ design flaw?

Interesting........

Isn't sort of like letting the air out of your tire and calling it a manufacturers defect because it doesn't handle very well and pulls to one side?
Randy

 

[marathonrunner]

I don't think I've ever had a pistol that I couldn't mishandle into a failure. Some are easier than others, including some very popular models that will fail to feed if you drop the slide in the wrong manner (slingshotting instead of using the slide release, or using the slide stop instead of slingshotting).

Have you tried to induce the failure? See what it would take. Only way to find out.

CZ P10C flaw seems for the most part harmless but the fact the striker can be rotated causing it to get stuck on the bottom edge of frame and not go into battery, that would be bad in a self defense situation. You won't find any other manufacture have something like that although it has not malfunctioned yet

 

[TomkinsSP]

...Isn't sort of like letting the air out of your tire and calling it a manufacturers defect because it doesn't handle very well and pulls to one side?
Randy

I guess that depends on how much force is required to rotate the striker. Might be more like every time you make a sharp turn the bead falls off the rim and the tire deflates.

Anyway to answer the OP, I would not carry a striker fired anything, and all my cylinders rotate freely and never get hung up on the frame.

 

[BigBadWolf11B]

Also, once CZ gets the bugs out with this issue on the P10-C (version 2.0, if you will) I’m sure I would probably get one anyways.

 

[Bamabred]

I would first want to know if this is all the guns are limited to this one particular gun from whoever you heard it from. Then I would want to try for myself. If it's a real issue, then I wouldn't carry it. If it's a one in a million issue, then I would. I don't put much stock in things that might happen if 20 factors align in just the right way.

 

[BigBadWolf11B]

It’s the P10-C’s only flaw and it has been discussed at length on the interwebs. Check YouTube, AR-15.com (handgun section), and a general Google search will produce the info you need.

On the plus side, CZ is tracking this issue and customer service with them is very good and they are fixing the issue, albeit a “band aid” type fix, they are going to make it right . . . until there is s revision, no doubt. Like I said, once that issue is sorted out, without a “band aid” fix, I will invest in one.

 

[Rpg]

I wouldn’t buy one, not because of this issue but because it holds no interest for me.

Tupperware handguns in general are unlovely in my view. They offer little in the way of redeeming qualities.

Yes, they are inexpensive, offer large magazine capacity I don’t need and are lightweight. But they are indifferent shooters in my hands.

The bottom line is that I don’t hunt with guns that embarrass the dog.

 

[cardguy]

I got rid of a defective (3 times ) back to the factory Ruger American 45acp for trade for a CZ10 and couldn't wait to sell it back to the dealer. I hated just about everything about that pistol. I'm content with my M & P CORE.

 

[Flattop5]

I wouldn’t buy one, not because of this issue but because it holds no interest for me.

Tupperware handguns in general are unlovely in my view. They offer little in the way of redeeming qualities.

Yes, they are inexpensive, offer large magazine capacity I don’t need and are lightweight. But they are indifferent shooters in my hands.

The bottom line is that I don’t hunt with guns that embarrass the dog.

Yes. There is no "pride of ownership" with a plastic gun. You're almost ashamed to take it out of the holster or gun case, because someone might see it and laugh.


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[TomkinsSP]

The bottom line is that I don’t hunt with guns that embarrass the dog.

Well put.

 

[Wise_A]

CZ P10C flaw seems for the most part harmless but the fact the striker can be rotated causing it to get stuck on the bottom edge of frame and not go into battery, that would be bad in a self defense situation. You won't find any other manufacture have something like that although it has not malfunctioned yet

I'd point out that everybody--everybody--in the pistol business has dropped a deuce at some point. Every example of every gun is not perfect.

Like I said: see what it takes to induce it. Shoot it a whole bunch and see what happens. If you can induce it, see what it takes to clear it.

Tupperware handguns in general are unlovely in my view. They offer little in the way of redeeming qualities.

Yes, they are inexpensive, offer large magazine capacity I don’t need and are lightweight. But they are indifferent shooters in my hands.

Sure, they're lighter, and cheaper, and plastic doesn't mind getting wet, but aside from that, no redeeming qualities whatsoever!

C'mon, m8. You don't like them. It's not hard to just say that.

Do they suck sorta? Well, at things. Kinda hard to get a 1911's trigger out of them. And for speed games, they're too light and the weight is a little imbalanced.

But if I ever need my CCW for something, I think all parties involved are gonna be a tad more concerned with the metal coming out, rather than the lack of metal inside.