Would you carry a gun with Magguts mag extension?

[Rastoff]

Does one more round really make that much difference?

Probably not, but it might.

I ask this question every time this subject comes up, which is a lot. What you've posted here is the most common answer. Truthfully, no one ever left a gun fight wishing they had less ammo. Even so, modifying your gun should be meaningful otherwise it's a risk with no reward.

People worry about the legal ramifications of modifying their trigger or having Punisher grips on their carry gun, but not about adding more ammo. Hmmmm...

The most important goal with any defensive tool is functional reliability. Second is the user's ability to use that tool effectively. It's far to common for people to add capacity rather than adding a practice session at the range. If we did more of the second, the first would be less necessary.

 

[jim lock]

Probably not. I shoot a lot of rounds through my regular mags.to check for reliability brfore I use them in my CCW. I do check my CCW regularly.

 

[Skeet 028]

I have carried extended capacity mags. Only if reliable though. I have been known to be a gadget person. I carry extra mags also. ...I can say...a 7 round magazine in a 45 ain't enough in certain situations. If I carry a semi auto, extra rounds or not... I have shot it enough to make sure it is as reliable as possible. I knew a chopper pilot who carried a Ruger Blackhawk 357 cause he said...it always works. He could shoot it too

 

[Telecaster]

Do what makes you comfortable. If MagGuts kits are reliable for you, do whatever you want. Don't base your decision on what a bunch of total strangers think.

 

[bubbatime]

As previously said, I would rather have an uber reliable OEM magazine that I know will work, that I have total faith in, then to have an aftermarket part in my magazine that will always bug me in the back of my mind. And for only one extra round? Waste of money.

 

[oldiegoldie]

i have two for .380 Bodyguard. They have been 100% reliable at the range.......they work as advertised. Assembling them first few times was a challenge, but it is easy once it's been done numerous times. i doubt i'll ever use them for carry for one reason...there are alot of parts. am enclosing 2 pictures of the guts and the follower. there are 4 parts, not including the magazine base plate/pad. i'll keep using them every range trip and they may eventually earn my trust to use in carry magazines.

 

[Telecaster]

As previously said, I would rather have an uber reliable OEM magazine that I know will work, that I have total faith in, then to have an aftermarket part in my magazine that will always bug me in the back of my mind. And for only one extra round? Waste of money.

How do you know the OEM mags are uber reliable?

 

[Muss Muggins]

How do you know the OEM mags are uber reliable?

I've yet to meet an undamaged, unmodified OEM magazine that wasn't as reliable as the gun. I just realized I also need to qualify an earlier post I made. I do use Magpul AR mags, both .223/5.56 and .308. I have found them to be as reliable as OEM, if not more, and I think some manufacturers ship them instead of their own magazines . . .

 

[Rastoff]

I've yet to meet an undamaged, unmodified OEM magazine that wasn't as reliable as the gun.

I wish I could say the same. Unfortunately, I've had a few bad mags from the manufacturer. All were replaced without question and for free.

Magpul has made a great reputation for themselves. So much so, that many companies no longer produce their own mags and just ship PMAGs with their guns. Some notable instances of this are S&W, IWI and Ruger. Not all of their guns come with PMAGs, but several models do and it's a good decision.

 

[Smoke]

Does one more round really make that much difference?

Do you load your magazine to capacity after after you chamber a round?

 

[Smoke]

Seems like a lot of T&E for one round.

I have probably 20 Magpul mags, some 15-round some 12 round. I've had them to the range multiple times over the last two years. I've done classes with them. Even after being dropped and stepped on multiple times I have yet to have a malfunction.

I carry them daily in my glock 26

 

[Rastoff]

Do you load your magazine to capacity after after you chamber a round?

No, I'm not a big fan of carrying +1. I've seen plenty of failures due to that and I choose to go with the most reliable mode. For me that has been to just load the mag, chamber a round and get on with my life.

 

[Muss Muggins]

I wish I could say the same. Unfortunately, I've had a few bad mags from the manufacturer. All were replaced without question and for free.

Clearly those magazines were damaged in some way . . .

 

[dr. mordo]

I have a magguts-ish follower in my G42 mags, and with a few hundred rounds they have been flawless. Not much of a test, true.

That said, I don't put any faith in the reliability of any semi-auto and carry a brace of revolvers most of the time.

 

[EarlB]

I'm an old fart, and being such I won't own anything called maggots or magguts.

 

[Bozz10mm]

I have been carrying my Shield 9mm with a Magguts +2 kit for over two years. Before that, I was using their +1 spring kit. I've put a lot of rounds through them both at the range and have not had any malfunctions with them.

 

[teevo8]

Magguts makes spring kits that replace the spring in a magazine and add a round to the mag's capacity.

I'm considering getting one for my P238 Sig, but Magguts offers a version for the 9mm Shield and the 380 Bodyguard.

Does anyone here use this product?

Is it reliable?

Would you (or do you) carry it?

I have a Shield 9mm Gen 1. I have two of the +2 round MagGuts and turned two 7-rd mags into two 9-rd mags. I carry both mags everyday. I've fired 500 rounds through each of them to make sure, and didn't malfunction once. 9+1 in the gun and a 9-rd spare mag for a total of 19 rounds is a significant difference. And the mag is only 1/4" longer, which is practically negligible in terms of concealability. It may not be worth it to 15+1 guns, but for sub-compacts, it's a significant advantage. People on here are literally knocking it before even trying it. MagGuts are legit. I highly recommend it for subcompacts. For 15+1 or 17+1 guns, who cares.

 

[biku324]

I was carrying a new 5906; the only spare mags (it came with two) I could find were aftermarket, and I don't remember the brand, although I'm sure they are still around. Instead of 15 rounds, they held 17 or 18, so I bought two and ran a few hundred rounds through each, then put one on my gunbelt and one in my magazine well. I was walking around the legislature (we had legislative security duty - it was rather unpleasant for us guys used to being on our own in in the wide-open spaces) and happened to glance down at my pistol. The magazine floor plate had fallen off, God knows where rendering the weapon completely non-functional.

I found an extra Smith magazine and never committed magazine adultery again. Even my later-carried Browning High Power has only factory nags.

 

[THEmodelof1989]

After reading the thread up to this point, it seems the camp is split...

Group A has tried the product in question and likes it and trust it.

Group B has never tried it and won't due to trust issues.

Group C has tried it and doesn't really like it. Group C has yet to be heard from in any significant way in this thread. It must be a good product.

Gentlemen talking about how they won't spend petty cash for an extra round because it cost too much, but will spend $500 on a set of revolver stocks. Ahh the logic. Y'all are killing me smalls.

... by the way, Wilson combat mags are LEGIT for those of you with the testicular fortitude to use dreaded after market magazines.

 

[BAM-BAM]

No..... but I do carry magazines with +2 adapters using factory magazines.

I also use Mec-gar magazines that often have a higher round count(17or18 vs 15) than factory. If they are "flush fit" they could be my primary (in gun) magazine; the +2s tend to be my extra magazine.

Not a big 1911 guy but do have Wilson 7rd and 8rd mags for my Sig CCO.

 

[Fastbolt]

If a gun company recommends the use of aftermarket magazine assemblies that extend factory magazine capacity, I'd give it a serious look.

Until such time, I'm conservatively cautious. (Hell, I was conservatively cautious even using factory-provided "+" magazine extensions on my G27 mags back when I was able to buy factory-assembled "+" extended G27 mags.)

I like as much optimal reliability in feeding as is possible to achieve, and I'd willingly give up having 1 or 2 extra rounds of added capacity if it meant maximizing reliability.

A little while back some of our guys (at my former agency) were using aftermarket magazine extensions on a couple makes of pistols. They weren't prohibited. (Think different guns using plastic and metal magazine bodies.)

One day one of the guys had repeated feeding stoppages occur with all 3 of his modified magazines during a qual course-of-fire. He was using the same provided ammunition that worked fine in everyone's guns and unmodified factory magazines. I was told that inspection of the magazines indicated possible issues involving the extensions having been added.

Sure, I knew one of the other armorers who has not had any problems using his metal extensions on his metal-bodied magazines, but as an instructor and armorer he's typically also very careful to constantly confirm the condition of his magazines as assemblies. (Magazines are assemblies of parts, you know.)

Last I heard, amidst some grumbling by some folks who liked extending their factory hi-cap mag capacities using aftermarket products, the use of aftermarket extensions are no longer authorized on duty weapons for anyone. Folks can still carry an extra magazine or 2 (above the usual 3 issued ones) if they want to increase their ability to carry more ammunition.

Choose where you're willing to risk compromising with your pistols used as dedicated defensive weapons.

Game guns? What's the degree of risk exposure? You risk losing points or a match. No biggie, as nobody's trying to kill you.

I also look at it another way ...

The engineers who develop the specs for the magazines being used in the guns they design may invest a lot of hours and R&D testing with the magazines provided with their pistols.

How many hours of testing do the engineers who have designed the guns do with aftermarket magazines or magazine extensions? How many of the gun company engineers make recommendations about the use of aftermarket magazine extensions?

 

[wb4tjh]

I have a Kahr CT380 with three mags,all with magguts and they work just fine. I also have a Shield 9mm with four mags with magguts and they are also 100 per cent. Magguts not only replaces the springs, but the followers as well. They give my CT380 a nine shot capacity with one in the chamber and that is nice for a pocket pistol. Magguts are NOT magazine extenders.