Do they have the shooter? YES!

[venomballistics]

I don't know if the "evidence" we are given is true or not. I don't believe much of what the .gov or the media says.

Does he know the environment? Did he go to school there? We're told he lives hours away.

Have you seen the video of him supposedly jumping off the roof and running away from the campus. Why would he run away? Where's the rifle we're told he had? It's clear, even from the grainy footage that there was nothing that was about 3 feet long and straight.

The other story is that he disassembled it, then reassembled it and left it in the woods.

Yeah, sure.

first off, he needed a gun to do this. I don't know of many people who can spit 150 grain projectiles
Mauser, rem 700 win 70, 1903 .... any will do
disassembly ..... not likely ... you and I both know this and would be right to question it. But thats what the John Wick theory fan club is clinging to.
That's why it's better to speculate things that actually could fit because the media of today is just too stupid to see how outlandish the story they are selling is.
It's not our first rodeo ... I seem to recall a SCOTUS appointment hearing with statements about incidents relying on technology that didn't exist.
The solid givens ... A rifle, a dweeb to fire it, some police to recover it and an egress since he wasn't found with the rifle when it was recovered.

 

[venomballistics]

The only thing "official" released that I saw was the leaked ATF MS-Teams meeting screenshot that stated it was an "old import Mauser in caliber .30-06". This was leaked before the picture was released and before he was caught.

I've also seen it as cal .30-05

 

[9Mary7]

I don't know if the "evidence" we are given is true or not. I don't believe much of what the .gov or the media says.

Does he know the environment? Did he go to school there? We're told he lives hours away.

Have you seen the video of him supposedly jumping off the roof and running away from the campus. Why would he run away? Where's the rifle we're told he had? It's clear, even from the grainy footage that there was nothing that was about 3 feet long and straight.

The other story is that he disassembled it, then reassembled it and left it in the woods.

Yeah, sure.

Watch the video of him fleeing off of the roof again. He clearly has something wrapped in a towel that he sets down as he gets off the roof, dropping it down and then picking it up and walking quickly towards the wooded area.

 

[Ματθιας]

I read a report yesterday that a single screwdriver was found next to the rifle. That would lead you to believe that the barreled action was removed from the stock at some point, since there are only two screws through the trigger guard holding it in?

Realistically, do you think he made the shot, then, disassembled the rifle, - even broken down to stock and action it's going to be about 18-24 inches - jumped off the building, ran to the forest and had the time to reassemble the rifle, then he left it for someone else to pick it up?

Why not toss everything into the trunk and dump the components an hour or two away from the scene?

 

[Ματθιας]

Watch the video of him fleeing off of the roof again. He clearly has something wrapped in a towel that he sets down as he gets off the roof, dropping it down and then picking it up and walking quickly towards the wooded area.

Whatever he has, it's flopping around.

If you're jumping off a roof, are you going to toss something heavy, then jump or jump like he did?

 

[MelvinWalker]

Realistically, do you think he made the shot, then, disassembled the rifle, - even broken down to stock and action it's going to be about 18-24 inches - jumped off the building, ran to the forest and had the time to reassemble the rifle, then he left it for someone else to pick it up?

Why not toss everything into the trunk and dump the components an hour or two away from the scene?

Agreed...There are pieces missing to the story. I'm sure in the near future, DOJ and Utah will release more information. I think the "Daily Mail", (UK tabloid/news), had a short video of him exiting the roof and I believe he was carry something,

DM has released information about the killer's "roommate" that further explains his possible motives. the above mentioned video is probably embedded in the story somewhere, as I watched it there the other day.

Roommate info

 

[ladder13]

So far so good, stay within the hash marks.

 

[venomballistics]

"Media states motives unclear of killer who wrote manifesto entitles 'these are my motives"

I love the bee at times like these

 

[DWalt]

I have no doubt that the details of everything he did and when he did it, second-by-second, will probably be revealed within a few weeks. Too much pressure to get it out quickly. I'll wait.

 

[9Mary7]

No expert here, but that looks fake to me.

Yes, definitely AI. I saw a video of the impact from CK's left side, (within an hour after the shot), which very clearly shows horrific impact thru and thru his throat.

 

[Tom S.]

Several posts removed for political and gender comments, NEITHER OF WHICH ARE NOT ALLOWED. Keep it up and the thread will be closed.

 

[jimmyj]

The video that shows Mr. Kirk shot in the chest and the bullet bounding off the vest and hitting in the neck, is this facts ?

 

[Doug M.]

^^ I doubt it.
1) As far as I know, he did not wear a vest (if you mean body armor).

2) I very much doubt most concealable armor would make any common .30-06 round bounce; that would almost certainly take rifle rated armor, level IV or higher and likely hard plates too.

 

[ladder13]

I haven't seen the video of the murder and won't go looking for it.

 

[tripledipper]

An LE discussion forum showed a graphic bloody video of the assassination and he was struck directly in the throat and grabbed his throat. A poster on that forum said he bled out and was likely gone in 60 seconds. That forum has active LE connections and gets info and images not privy to the general public. The video quickly made its way to many other websites.

 

[9Mary7]

An LE discussion forum showed a graphic bloody video of the assassination and he was struck directly in the throat and grabbed his throat. A poster on that forum said he bled out and was likely gone in 60 seconds. That forum has active LE connections and gets info and images not privy to the general public. The video quickly made its way to many other websites.

The video that shows Mr. Kirk shot in the chest and the bullet bounding off the vest and hitting in the neck, is this facts ?

@jimmyj the video of a chest impact is A.I. garbage.
@tripledipper is correct re: the direct hit video's accuracy.

 

[Faulkner]

An LE discussion forum showed a graphic bloody video of the assassination and he was struck directly in the throat and grabbed his throat. A poster on that forum said he bled out and was likely gone in 60 seconds. That forum has active LE connections and gets info and images not privy to the general public. The video quickly made its way to many other websites.

I saw it on a LE forum and I don't recommend it.

 

[Rudi]

After seeing what an .06 does to a deer, I won't be watching that vid.

 

[bushmaster1313]

There's nothing I can or want to add to the discussion of Charlie Kirk's assassination.

I do want to say that I am saddened and appalled by the lack of respect for life that we see over and over again in our country.

 

[MelvinWalker]

I saw it on a LE forum and I don't recommend it.

It was posted on the Drudge Report an hour after it happened. The rally was being filmed by hundreds of people in the audience.

Very graphic and I don't recommend it either, but it was not "privy" to law enforcement. There were several angles shown because it was being filmed simultaneously by scores of people.

 

[venomballistics]

An LE discussion forum showed a graphic bloody video of the assassination and he was struck directly in the throat and grabbed his throat. A poster on that forum said he bled out and was likely gone in 60 seconds. That forum has active LE connections and gets info and images not privy to the general public. The video quickly made its way to many other websites.

I'm thankful for some of these kinda of sources. they are not for the faint of heart, but in this era where they gleefully painted the dweeb shooter to be something of a god among other perversions of fact, these frames become necessary for personal review despite the ghoulish imagery

 

[YouveHadYour6]

My only observation on this mess - what a horrible father.