The only thing "official" released that I saw was the leaked ATF MS-Teams meeting screenshot that stated it was an "old import Mauser in caliber .30-06". This was leaked before the picture was released and before he was caught.
Do they have the shooter? YES!
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I'm hoping this murder of Charley Kirk turns into the script from a B western. You know where a villain has a gang that keeps the townspeople under his thumb. Doing what ever they like regardless of legal or not. They have the power, the law is what they say it is. Then something happens like a murder of an innocent person that wakes up the people. The line was crossed. Everyone saddles up and drives the villain and his gang out of town, clear out! Everyone that was collaborating also gets the boot. Once this wave starts, see it through to the end.
venomballistics
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first off, he needed a gun to do this. I don't know of many people who can spit 150 grain projectiles
Mauser, rem 700 win 70, 1903 .... any will do
disassembly ..... not likely ... you and I both know this and would be right to question it. But thats what the John Wick theory fan club is clinging to.
That's why it's better to speculate things that actually could fit because the media of today is just too stupid to see how outlandish the story they are selling is.
It's not our first rodeo ... I seem to recall a SCOTUS appointment hearing with statements about incidents relying on technology that didn't exist.
The solid givens ... A rifle, a dweeb to fire it, some police to recover it and an egress since he wasn't found with the rifle when it was recovered.
venomballistics
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I've also seen it as cal .30-05
Watch the video of him fleeing off of the roof again. He clearly has something wrapped in a towel that he sets down as he gets off the roof, dropping it down and then picking it up and walking quickly towards the wooded area.
Realistically, do you think he made the shot, then, disassembled the rifle, - even broken down to stock and action it's going to be about 18-24 inches - jumped off the building, ran to the forest and had the time to reassemble the rifle, then he left it for someone else to pick it up?
Why not toss everything into the trunk and dump the components an hour or two away from the scene?
Whatever he has, it's flopping around.
If you're jumping off a roof, are you going to toss something heavy, then jump or jump like he did?
Agreed...There are pieces missing to the story. I'm sure in the near future, DOJ and Utah will release more information. I think the "Daily Mail", (UK tabloid/news), had a short video of him exiting the roof and I believe he was carry something,
DM has released information about the killer's "roommate" that further explains his possible motives. the above mentioned video is probably embedded in the story somewhere, as I watched it there the other day.
Roommate info
OP
So far so good, stay within the hash marks.
venomballistics
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"Media states motives unclear of killer who wrote manifesto entitles 'these are my motives"
I love the bee at times like these
I love the bee at times like these
DWalt
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I have no doubt that the details of everything he did and when he did it, second-by-second, will probably be revealed within a few weeks. Too much pressure to get it out quickly. I'll wait.
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Yes, definitely AI. I saw a video of the impact from CK's left side, (within an hour after the shot), which very clearly shows horrific impact thru and thru his throat.
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The video that shows Mr. Kirk shot in the chest and the bullet bounding off the vest and hitting in the neck, is this facts ?
Doug M.
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^^ I doubt it.
1) As far as I know, he did not wear a vest (if you mean body armor).
2) I very much doubt most concealable armor would make any common .30-06 round bounce; that would almost certainly take rifle rated armor, level IV or higher and likely hard plates too.
1) As far as I know, he did not wear a vest (if you mean body armor).
2) I very much doubt most concealable armor would make any common .30-06 round bounce; that would almost certainly take rifle rated armor, level IV or higher and likely hard plates too.
