Would you consider the 15-22 to be a throw away?

A "real" AR15? You do know that most "AR" 15's are actually something else, right? The M&P15-22 is a real "AR" type rifle, in .22.r.
It has a Polymer receiver. So do some in .223 Remington.
Like some other posters have mentioned, there are some "AR" style .22's that are most definitely NOT actual "AR" style rifles. The "Colt" (Umarex) and the Mossberg come to mind. I've sold them both to customers, and I can't believe they didn't bring them back. The M&P is a keeper.
 
nsl said:
By throw away, I mean something that is not going to be inherited by you kids or grandkids 50 years from now because it would be long broken or worn?
Never fired one, and I'm sure they are fun, but most of this "airsoftish" stuff alot of makers are coming out with doesn't look to be as durable as the 22's of old.
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I'm curious about the reasoning that you are using for your post, I believe that you are implying that because the 15-22 is mainly made out of polymer is not as durable as old .22 rifles. Well lets talk about Glock for a second and how when it hit the market people freak out a out a gun made out of plastic and how was not going to be as durable comparing to the all steel guns, personally I have a few thousand rounds through my 15-22 and as matter a fact is getting better as now it's less picky about ammo as it was when new. I highly doubt that I have enough money to spen on ammo and mags to wear out my 15-22.
 
I just want to let everybody that I am doing my part in finding out just how long the 15-22 will last. I travel allot and I don't have a backyard range but I shoot when I can. So far I have 4,235 rounds through her and have about 6,000 rounds just waiting for their turn.
 
ChattanoogaPhil said:
Notice much wear?

I haven't. I still use the original mags.
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No noticeable wear on anything. That 20k is primarily through a dozen 25-rounders with a few 10-round shorts thrown in. I run a bore snake through the barrel every 1k or so and clean the bolt face at the same time. I blow out the lower and the FCG with 90 psi air, too.

I have a High Standard Trophy Supramatic with something close to 100k through the barrel and it still does a 25-yard, 10-shot group of an inch or so from a machine rest.
 
.22 rifles don't really wear out,it's very hard to do so...... plus most people won't be able to put that many rounds through it.

The gun is plastic but .22 doesn't put much stress on parts, so they last longer. Also, the lower receiver takes so little stress that Bushmaster and others make lowers for .223 AR's out of polymer and some private gun owners have made AR lowers out of wood.

I don't have a 15-22 but I have a 20+ year old Ruger 10/22 that has a zillion rounds though it, that will still hit a groundhog at 100 yards.
 
Rundover said:
Majorik, that is amazing! So I just have gotta ask, where did you get 20,000 rounds of 22?
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That's over about three years. Until the bottom dropped out, I bought my .22s by the case - 5,250 rounds for $169. I bought four cases just before the ammo dried up. That doesn't count the roughly 10k I already had. I still have sufficient to last me another couple of years. :D

I know some folks here will scream HOARDER as loudly as they can, but I buy to shoot, not keep on the shelf. If that offends some folks ... well, that's THEIR problem. :D

My forethought has kept me shooting without paying outrageous prices.
 
Majorlk said:
I know some folks here will scream HOARDER as loudly as they can, but I buy to shoot, not keep on the shelf. If that offends some folks ... well, that's THEIR problem. :D

My forethought has kept me shooting without paying outrageous prices.
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I buy to shoot... and to keep on the shelf. And it is not like my purchases keep others from shooting. I bought another case of Norma Tac-22 last month and posted a link on the ammo thread, and that ammo is still available... by the case. Sure, it is not as cheap as what you got years ago, but it is still a whole lot cheaper than 300 blackout. To me it is a bargain.

I shoot to please myself... not follow some norms that others set. I choose to use optics that cost more than the basic gun. If that makes me a hoarder or foolish to some, then I'm with you. That is their problem.

And who defines outrageous? I started shooting the 15-22 right as the craziness started. Before, I shot so little, that I didn't pay attention to price. But to me, even the 10 or 11 cent good ammo I shoot, is not crazy. Shooting the 15-22 is still much cheaper than shooting my ARs.
 
RedNeck Jim said:
I buy to shoot... and to keep on the shelf. And it is not like my purchases keep others from shooting. I bought another case of Norma Tac-22 last month and posted a link on the ammo thread, and that ammo is still available... by the case. Sure, it is not as cheap as what you got years ago, but it is still a whole lot cheaper than 300 blackout. To me it is a bargain.

I shoot to please myself... not follow some norms that others set. I choose to use optics that cost more than the basic gun. If that makes me a hoarder or foolish to some, then I'm with you. That is their problem.

And who defines outrageous? I started shooting the 15-22 right as the craziness started. Before, I shot so little, that I didn't pay attention to price. But to me, even the 10 or 11 cent good ammo I shoot, is not crazy. Shooting the 15-22 is still much cheaper than shooting my ARs.
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Great post!
 
Majorlk said:
That's over about three years. Until the bottom dropped out, I bought my .22s by the case - 5,250 rounds for $169. I bought four cases just before the ammo dried up. That doesn't count the roughly 10k I already had. I still have sufficient to last me another couple of years. :D

I know some folks here will scream HOARDER as loudly as they can, but I buy to shoot, not keep on the shelf. If that offends some folks ... well, that's THEIR problem. :D

My forethought has kept me shooting without paying outrageous prices.
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Its always better to plan ahead, I acquired 6 buckets of GB to feed my 15-22 just before everything went missing also.
 
hoosierone said:
Didn't have to sell the 9422, had the cash for the 15-22. So do I turn the 9422 into a safe queen or sell it and get a nice S&W .357 4" barrel in stainless?
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For me, the 9422 has a cachet that the 15-22 will never have. We have semi-auto .22s around here, but the old 9422 still gets taken out. It was out Christmas week when all the kids were back home. The original topic of this thread was whether the 15-22 was a throw away rifle. It certainly is not, but the 9422 is the antithesis of a throw away. It has been around here for over thirty years, with tens of thousands of rounds through it and as far as I can tell it is the same mechanically as it was when I got it. It looks good, too. I'll give my usual answer. If you don't think you'll use the 9422 and don't appreciate it for what it is, take the opportunity to make some money on it and pass it on to someone who does. But you might be sorry. They truly don't make them like that anymore.
 
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For the sake of argument let's say that after 50K rounds ur 15-22 stops working. U call S&W, they send U a shipping label, U send them ur rifle, they fix it & ship it back 2 U for free. Just like they did with my 686 & my model 36. They never asked me IF I was the original owner, although I was, never matter 2 them.
 
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