Would you shoot this?

[hoc9sw]

OP did say "new", but from what I read on their website would be that the process of loading is the same.
I would be sending them back, and looking for a different supplier.

 

[redwood0_7]

Those don't look good at all. I would not shoot them.. That being said I have bought and shot a lot of their reman ammo with no problems

 

[old&slow]

Would you I shoot them ? Not only NO ,, but Heck NO !!!!

A few thousands can change the pressure curve of a 9mm a Bunch..

 

[Doubless]

I don't believe that is crimp; I think that is the result of an oversized expander ball. The 9 has a tapered case inside, and the oversized expander ball has changed that case to the point the bullet is allowed to slide too deeply. I agree a crimp might help that happen, but the bullet can't go any deeper than the point of interference between inside case wall and base of bullet. There is an issue with the inside diameter of that case that has nothing to do with crimp, in my estimation.

It could also be a projectile that is a couple of thousandths under-sized and NOT be an issue with the case, too. That is another possibility.

 

[APS]

I ordered 500 rnds of Speer Lawman 45ACP and when I got it many of the rounds were like that. Most wouldn't say Speer has a quality control issue. It was obvious someone had dropped the shipping box at some point during the trip. The vendor exchanged the hole lot for me.

 

[qkarl]

Wow I'll be inspecting my handful of rounds from FM now... :s

 

[Dude Jones]

It was obvious someone had dropped the shipping box at some point during the trip.

I wish that was all it was with this. I would shoot the correct length ones. But the shipping box was fine and the short ones were random in the boxes of 50. If it was a dropped box you would think that they would all be in one spot.

I did send FM a email requesting a return label last night but so far zero response. I will give it another day or so then try calling them. I will update yall when I hear anything.

 

[.41fan]

Yes, let us know the outcome. I was thinking of ordering but will wait to see the outcome before i do anything.

 

[shil]

Owoooo! 9x19 millimeter, already a relatively high-pressure cartridge, fired with a too-deeply seated bullet equals a nasty and potentially dangerous pressure spike! If the ammunition is "remanufactured", are the cases mixed-headstamp/manufacturer? If you read through the loading manuals, you may well find, as did I, reference to 9x19 mm of different manufacturers as having differing case wall thickness. If the case is particularly thin-walled, resizing may not get the internal diameter down far enough to get a tight grip on the bullet, even if taper-crimped. I personally have experienced this when I was reloading 9mm years ago (I do no longer). The result is pictured by the OP. Please do not fire the short cartridges.

 

[martybee]

Owoooo! 9x19 millimeter, already a relatively high-pressure cartridge, fired with a too-deeply seated bullet equals a nasty and potentially dangerous pressure spike! If the ammunition is "remanufactured", are the cases mixed-headstamp/manufacturer? If you read through the loading manuals, you may well find, as did I, reference to 9x19 mm of different manufacturers as having differing case wall thickness. If the case is particularly thin-walled, resizing may not get the internal diameter down far enough to get a tight grip on the bullet, even if taper-crimped. I personally have experienced this when I was reloading 9mm years ago (I do no longer). The result is pictured by the OP. Please do not fire the short cartridges.

I believe the original post stated that he bought New ammunition.
I have ordered 500 rds. of FM new ammo and am waiting for it to arrive. I will examine it closely.

mb

 

[Dude Jones]

Well I finally received a response from FM on Thursday and they told me they were going to send a prepaid label to return the defective ammo. That was four days ago and still no label...

I cant say yet if they are gona make this right or not but I can say I will never purchase anything from them ever again.

 

[rwsmith]

I've been sayin'......

I've been saying how people that worry about a few thousandths difference in 9mm are too anal, but I'm WAY too anal to shoot those.

 

[Watchdog]

That's just wrong.

 

[Watchdog]

Well I finally received a response from FM on Thursday and they told me they were going to send a prepaid label to return the defective ammo. That was four days ago and still no label...

I cant say yet if they are gona make this right or not but I can say I will never purchase anything from them ever again.

I'm usually not one to make a judgement of a company based on one instance, but in this case, I think I have to agree with you.

The thing with the shipping label: I've had to return merchandise to two companies over the past three years. Both companies e-mailed me a return label in PDF format within hours. I printed it out, attached it to the package, and off it went the next morning. No fuss, no muss, and no delay. I hate to say it, but some companies haven't moved into the 21st Century yet.

I think the bottom line for me in this case would be if they can't handle a simple return label, I'm not gonna trust their ammo...don't care if it "looks right" or not.

 

[chief38]

ABSOLUTELY NOT! SEND IT BACK!!!!

 

[martybee]

Well I finally received a response from FM on Thursday and they told me they were going to send a prepaid label to return the defective ammo. That was four days ago and still no label...

I cant say yet if they are gona make this right or not but I can say I will never purchase anything from them ever again.

Be sure to up-date and keep us posted with final results!

mb

 

[NCavi8tor]

I received my 1000 rounds of 124 grain reman ammo from Freedom Munitions and it all looks perfect. I shot 300 rounds of it this past weekend and all was well. I will order more.

NC

 

[Glashaus]

I have shot 1000's of rounds of Freedom Munitions Ammo, all was ordered online and delivered. All the ammo looked and preformed great. The only problem that I have ever had was a 240 round box of 7.62x51 NATO that was delivers as a 200 round box, I called them up and spoke to customer service, a week later the 40 rounds plus an extra 20 rounds. They are a stand up company.

 

[vinny77]

so are you saying that the shorts are all from the same box? That would be highly suspect to shipping? I have shot the 124's and 115's both reman and new from freedom munitions. good stuff.
BTW. their CS is one of the best...SH** happens and they will make it right. Their brass program will really cut the cost of ammo. Order new when you can.

 

[Deadctr]

I've ordered from Freedom quite a bit. Never had anything like that though. Did have some FTF's in 40S&W. Emailed them, sent pictures, of struck, but unfired rounds. They responded with a doubled shipment. They have me as a customer, for what little that counts.

I would give them a chance, but still be vigilant.