Wreks and insurance woes

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my father had an accident. He side swiped a tow truck that was working an accident scene. The State Trooper was standing there and what happened is on his dash cam. The Trooper cited the tow truck driver because his truck was partially in the road and was not using or had insuficiant lights or something. The owner operator plead guilty paid his fine. BUT the insurance company GMAC said after completing their investagation they would not cover the damages. What kind of crap is this and what can my DAD do. He is 70+ and is terminaly ill. The doctors give him 6 months. I told him to just forget about it but I cant stand the thought of this if the Insurance company is screwing him. My dad can't forget about it either He seems more hurt than anything and this makes me mad as hell just thinking this is what is on his mind in his last days.

Any advice out there.

Thanks.
 
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my father had an accident. He side swiped a tow truck that was working an accident scene. The State Trooper was standing there and what happened is on his dash cam. The Trooper cited the tow truck driver because his truck was partially in the road and was not using or had insuficiant lights or something. The owner operator plead guilty paid his fine. BUT the insurance company GMAC said after completing their investagation they would not cover the damages. What kind of crap is this and what can my DAD do. He is 70+ and is terminaly ill. The doctors give him 6 months. I told him to just forget about it but I cant stand the thought of this if the Insurance company is screwing him. My dad can't forget about it either He seems more hurt than anything and this makes me mad as hell just thinking this is what is on his mind in his last days.

Any advice out there.

Thanks.
 
Is GMAC his insurance or the tow truck's? If GMAC is covering the truck, he needs to file a claim with his insurance. They will go after GMAC for him.
 
Don't you just love the insurance companies? I'd like to stomp the gecko and put something in the hands of the "good hands" people, if you know what I mean.
Mrs. Sparky was involved in an accident, not her fault, and we ended up settling instead of hiring a lawyer. They paid about half of the repair and we're still waiting on the medical $$. What a great system.
Could be that the lawyer route may be the only way to go and that could take many months. I know it can weigh heavily on your mind.
Hopefully somebody with more smarts in this area can lead you in the right direction.
 
GMAC is the tow truck insurance. State farm (my dads insurance)said they could do nothing since he did not have full coverage. He paid cash for his truck that is now several years old. Was in very good condition though. He does not drive a lot.
 
Also, get all your documents in order, including police reports. Get a copy of the dash cam as well (will cost a little more than just paperwork).

Then contact your State Insurance Commissioner. These insurance companies do business in the state at the pleasure of the Insurance Commissioner, and if they try to skirt their obligations, he will hold their feet to the fire.

BTW, also research if your state has a "move over" law. Georgia does, and any "emergency vehicle or service vehicle) with flashing lights are supposed to be given room just like a LEO vehicle making a stop. If this applies, the insurance folks may be considering contributory neglegence (SP?) as a reason for not paying.

Its BS, but don't let yourself get blindsided.

And read the current insurance policy your Dad has. You might want to talk to a traffic lawyer as well. In the end, it will probably be money well spent by you.

I understand where you are coming from, and I hope you can help your Dad in this situation.
 
Insurance companies make their money by not paying what they owe until sued. They do not care about their policy, the state commissioner (who is waiting at the earliest opportunity to retire from the state and work for the insurance companies) or any rules. They know that 99% of the people will take what ever they are paid and move on even if they grumble. You just have let them know that you are not part of the 99%.
 
Houston Rick is right. If you can do it, you should engage a lawyer to at least write a letter to the insurance company. The letter itself will
alert them that you aren't part of HR's 99% and they won't know you've hired him just to do the demand letter.

Probably will cost a few bucks as those type of letters generally contain a lot of info about the crash leading up to the "demand" that the insurance company pay. If you put it all together for the lawyer, that might help with costs, but most lawyers would insist on reviewing the material before they put their name on it.

If you have an acquaintance or friend of a friend who's a lawyer, that might work for you.

Bob
 
I hate to be the one to say it, but I think this will be a no-win for you. If it ever made it to a judge, he will have to question why your FIL couldn't see far enough ahead to easily avoid a stationary object. Especially since a police cruiser was already on the scene.

In some jurisdictions if you are more than 50% at fault you are bared from any recovery. IMHO, your FIL would be viewed at least 75% at fault.

Sorry,

Don
 
Thanks to all who replied. I wish my parents had told me sooner. They do have all the court papers and have talked to the trooper that was there when it happened. He feels that the tow truck driver was at fault. I know it's not up to him to decide but maybe his opinion will carry a little weight. I am going to pass all this info along and help them at least gain some closer.

Thanks again.
 
Why don't you find a lawyer in your town that does this type of work and go in for a consult???? Most do not charge as the traffic is what gets people into the office. If nothing is there, he/she will tell you. If something is there they will tell you also and it's then up to you to decide how to go.
Property damage cases are usually on the low end of the totem pole, but if SC is like Louisiana there is (are) statutes that provide for penalties and attorney fees for wrongful and arbitrary refusal to pay a valid claim. That's where the lawyer will make his money.
PS do not let ths ins co know your dad is sick-if they know that the bloodsuckers will draw it out until he passes.
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The duties and resposabilities of the State Insurance Agency and Commisioners differ widely from state to state.

In Idaho their sole responsability is to make sure that a comapany that writes polices has the assetts to pay said polices. Not that they ever pay off, or if they cancel your home owners after the pay off from hail damage or............. "There are other insurance companies that will cover you, you just need to shop around" "It is after all a free market". "If you disagree with your insurance company you can take them to court, that's what the courts are there for,to settle these types of disagreements, not the Insurance Commission"

As I understand what you are saying your father side swiped a stationary object, the tow truck.GRanted it was not lit properly and too far out into the street, still...............
Because his truck was paid for he elected to carry liability insurance only. The tow truck was issued the ticket. His, the tow truck guy's, insurance refuses to pay for your dads truck. Your dad's insurance isn't in any hurry to do anything, they owe nothing to anybody so why would they spend time and money to recover from a third party?

The lawyer is really the best idea. Take it to one of those that does it on a contigency. Of course unless your father has injuries then we really are talking about the book value of the truck. It is? If the 1/3 they would collect if they won isn't enough to pay for their time and make a profit they won't take the case and you'll know it isn't worth the time effort and money to pursue.


We get a notice every month, from my own insurance company, that we pay too much insurance on the pickups. They are all paid for and they think we should have liability only AND a high dectable. I put full coverage on everything back to the 1994. Sure it's paid for but I don't happen to have $8K for another if that one gets totaled. They don't see it that way.

It's a racket but unfortunately one you can't do without in todays world.

In August 2001 I was rear ended in a 1 Ton Dodge pickup by a drunk driver that the police estimated was closing from the rear at least 50 MPH faster than the 65 I was going.

I already had a bad back. Initially his insurance offered low blue book for the truck and absolutely nothing else. My back hurt more than usual. Went in for an MRI on my dime.

I ended up with another fusion in my neck and one above the existing one in the thorasic region (between my shoulder blades). His insurance offer low ballon the truck and paid the balance of his $25K policy. Of that $25k MY lawyer got $8K and my medical insurance got the balance to pay part of the hospital and doctors bills. I then spent the next two years undergoing the second surgery and waiting for a release from the doctors, before MY insurance would pay on my Under/Unisured driver portion and the collision portion of my policy.

I looked like we were going to have to go to court but two weeks before the court date and 2 weeks after the doctors released me they settled for the $100K limit of my policy. Of course under Idaho Law they got to deduct the $25K his insurance had already paid. So that left $75K. The lawyer took his $25K off the top as agreed upon. That left $50K. Of that $38K was paid to my Medical Insurance as a suborgated right to pay re-pay hospitals and doctors. That left $22K with which I bought a used 1 Ton Dodge like the one that had been totaled almost exactly 3 years to the day of the original wreck.

With a company rather than an individual they might have deeper pockets to go after. Me I got hit by some college student instead of a Pepsi truck so there was never any issue of pain, suffering, lost wages etc.

The ONLY bright side was I was aalready retired and had retirement and VA disability income and the ranch income, whether I could work or not. If I had been a working stiff in a regular job and unable to work for three years and out of a job due the injuries, I would have simply been screwed. It's that simple.

Insurance companies are in the business of collecting and investing premiums. They don't make money by paying out on policies.

Where your dad can/could be deemed partially at fault I think from a personal perspctive you are whipping a dead horse.

I wish you and your dad the best but don't hold out a lot of hope that it'll work out to satisfy either of you.

RWT
 
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