WWII War Certificate/Walther (PIC)

[kobsw]

K38 I guess in the right circles a specialized gun like yours would fetch these prices.

Anyway Crown over N is a German pre-war proof mark used before April 1, 1940. "N" indicates that the gun has been proofed with "nitro" or smokeless powder. Found on early PP, PPK's and others.

Your gun was not officially accepted into the NAZI army since it is missing the Eagle over WaA359 which is the most common Waffenamt pistol stamp. It is found on all Walther PP's and PPK's accepted by the military. Another version of the "Pleitegeirer" shows the eagle over 359. mark.

Your gun was most likely taken from a german solder who armed himself with it because he liked it or it was given to him, etc..... It's also possible that a german civilian had it in their possession and turned it in.

This is all Just conjecture on my part.

Never the less it's a fascinating gun with documented historical significance.

kobsw..

 

[K.38]

From what I understand is these guns were training guns for a hunting license. The person wanting a hunting license had to take a test and one of the skills tested was pistol shooting.

This pistol was also called the Jagermodell and was used to test quick draw and rapid shooting. One of the reasons I really don't like thieves as in the dirtbag who stole this pistol is the holster would have been something see. I haven't been able to find even a picture on the internet of one of the holsters.

One wonders if this "hunting test" that the third reich required didn't have more to do with military training than hunting?

 

[narc766]

K38 that's a cool pic with the supporting docs to get it back into the US. I actually have a Victory with the same letter, I can only surmise it was taken by the enemy from one of our boys and then taken back thus considered a spoil of war. By the way are you from Chaffee County Colorado? If so I grew up in Buena Vista and as a matter of fact my folks still live there.

 

[K.38]

K38 that's a cool pic with the supporting docs to get it back into the US. I actually have a Victory with the same letter, I can only surmise it was taken by the enemy from one of our boys and then taken back thus considered a spoil of war. By the way are you from Chaffee County Colorado? If so I grew up in Buena Vista and as a matter of fact my folks still live there.

We do live here, as a matter of fact I was in BV yesterday dropping off a rifle at the gunsmith.

Interesting that the military would do a certificate on a Victory model. Seems they would just put it back in inventory. That's cool that you have it, interesting piece of history. Is your victory marked in the usual way?

 

[narc766]

Wow, small world. Did you drop the rifle off to Bill--lives west of town? If so he does great work my dad had him build a rifle a few years ago and its a shooter for sure.

Not sure why they didn't put it back in inventory but I'm pretty sure things were alot different back then--as far as how the military worked. There are no markings other than the US Property and inspector stamp. It also came with a holster which I have been told is for a Luger. I am working on some research on the soldier who was authorized to have it.

 

[K.38]

Bill does have my rifle and yes indeed he does some very nice work.

The soldier on the Walthers certificate came up on several goodgle searches. He wasn't famous but anyone who went through what they did is a hero to me. I feel very lucky to have been able to buy this pistol and to be able to shoot it and enjoy it. I would like to find out some info on the officer who signed the cert but I can't make out enough of the name to get a good spelling.

If your ever back in BV for a visit give send me a PM and if you have time I would be more than happy to let you shoot the Walther.

 

[narc766]

Mike I most definitely will