Yeah, yeah. I know. He's a liberal...

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How is that working out for you and those lawful gun owners in NY??
I also am a liberal who owns guns. There are a lot of liberals who own guns. And you people make a mistake by dismissing and denigrating us. Many non gun owners are afraid of guns and gun owners. They sure are not going to listen to you, but we (liberal gun owners) have a chance to educate them. I have owned guns since I was 12, close to 70 years, and I resent the smug and superior attitude that some of you seem to have.
 
Don't have cable. Wouldn't watch Stewart if I did.
You don't have cable, but you do have the internet. You can (not) watch Stewart on that, just one day late. Stewart is an excellent comic, in small doses. Watching him night after night gets tiresome.
 
I also am a liberal who owns guns. There are a lot of liberals who own guns. And you people make a mistake by dismissing and denigrating us. Many non gun owners are afraid of guns and gun owners. They sure are not going to listen to you, but we (liberal gun owners) have a chance to educate them. I have owned guns since I was 12, close to 70 years, and I resent the smug and superior attitude that some of you seem to have.

I am probably as middle of the road as anyone can get. I often shoot with "liberals" and "conservatives" and we enjoy each others company. One of the things that unite us is our belief in the 2nd A. This transcends all other issues and we are united in our opposition to any threat to this right. Every member of this forum is, I believe, also united in this belief. We are also facing the biggest threat we have ever seen to our rights and need to present a united front to the public. We can argue about some issues but please, in the future, let's not put each other down by labeling our fellow members. Personally I don't care if you're liberal, conservative, a democrat or republican. I do care if you support the 2nd A and our fellow forum members.
 
I also am a liberal who owns guns. There are a lot of liberals who own guns. And you people make a mistake by dismissing and denigrating us. Many non gun owners are afraid of guns and gun owners. They sure are not going to listen to you, but we (liberal gun owners) have a chance to educate them. I have owned guns since I was 12, close to 70 years, and I resent the smug and superior attitude that some of you seem to have.

You people?????????????? I asked a pertinent question of people who put our President and the NY governor in office. Now that that is done, they certainly seem to be attacking the 2nd Amendment with new vigor and I would guess it will continue for the rest of their terms. I ask the question again how is that working out for you as a lawful gun owner? My rights are certainly infringed upon today.

BTW - You and Bill Mahar have a lot in common - personal attacks and persecution dished out for anyone who does not agree with you.
 
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How is that working out for you and those lawful gun owners in NY??

I'll tell you how it's working out.....it AIN'T :(. Mario Cuomo the author of the recent legislation claims to own a " remington shotgun", you all know Chuck Schumer, he was even in a photo op shooting some guns, Kirsten Gillibrand claimed to be a hunter and for the 2nd A. What's the common thread, they're all libs. So what if they shoot or even own guns, they're NOT my friend and never will be. Then there's Bloomberg, McCarthy, etc there's plenty more, and all with a common thread.......
 
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John Stewart is funny....the rest have their moments. What i find really discouraging is that there are millions of people in the 18-34 demographic(which happens to be mine) to whom he and Colbert are their primary news source; and they think that the world is just as it's seen through John Stewart's eyes. I watch a lot of news, and listen to a lot of commentary, but I make up my own mind. Hell, there is even some programming on NPR that I enjoy.:eek: FLAME ON!!!

This is what folks forget:

John Stewart and Stephen Colbert are actors reading skits written by the Comedy Channel. If they were offered a more lucrative contract to read something else, they would.:cool:
 
You people?????????????? I asked a pertinent question of people who put our President and the NY governor in office. Now that that is done, they certainly seem to be attacking the 2nd Amendment with new vigor and I would guess it will continue for the rest of their terms. I ask the question again how is that working out for you as a lawful gun owner? My rights are certainly infringed upon today.

BTW - You and Bill Mahar have a lot in common - personal attacks and persecution dished out for anyone who does not with you.

The great thing about this country is everyone's opinion is equal but please name some people considered conservatives that are willing to flush our 2A rights down the crapper like Cuomo and his ilk in New York are attempting to do.
 
I am neither; I am a patriot: one who supports the issues he/she deems to be in the best interests of all of the people, all of the time, and I vote for the people who represent those issues, even if I don't agree with some of what they stand for, to a smaller degree. I refuse to be pigeon holed into a category by anyone, and if someone on here tries it, I will drop a dime on them to the mods, claiming they are being Political!!
 
Well... back to humor...

My wife is originally from Tejas. I told her "Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms" sounded like a chain of Texan convenience stores. :D
 
As am I. A lot of my friends are liberals and gun owners.

I suppose pigeonholed, I am as well. I identify with almost every traditionally thought of as liberal viewpoints but make up my mind on every issue rather than having a set ideology define my beliefs.

I believe in the Second Amendment to the US Constitution and believe in and have sworn to protect and defend the entire thing. I don't confuse the framers' delineated rights with what I believe are basic human rights though I strongly beliee that the the evolution of the constitution has gne a very long way toward mirroring what i consider basic human rights.

Pardon my lack of badges but I also am fiercely private both because of what I do for a living and because of who I am.

I work really hard every day to stop weapons far more devastating than any gun from being developed or manufactured (likely with the intent of using them against the US) by both state and non-state actors. I've been in danger more often than I'd like to admit to my family and consider myself patriotic and prudent.

It kills me that we brand people as part of a two-sided spectrum and devastates me when I see that branding employed and vilified here where I feel like I have found an Internet home.

I respect all that post here; we're united by a common interest and passion. I'm propelled by my own moral compass and a proud of who I am, what I believe in, and my actions in support of both.

Blessings on you all; this community makes my life richer and I hope that there is mutual respect with the common denominators being our humanity; our love for country; and passion for learning about, debating, and discussing how to best responsibly protect our right to own firearms.

Edited: sorry, a few typos... Doing this on a mobile device is tough!!
 
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Mrbort, I like your message. You rightly point out that we can be patriotic and liberal at the same time. We all love our country and support the Constitution too. However, we all have slightly different views and need to avoid calling each other names. We need to embrace a wide spectrum of thought and points of view, in other words that worn phrase, we need a big tent, is appropriate. If we don't we will lose.
 
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