Airsoft accessories onn a 15-22?

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has anyone done it and to what levels of success have you had.
I have seen a cheap(ish) ace skeleton stock for an airsoft AR and wondered if it could be made to fit easily enough.
I know the 15-22 weighs in lighter than the all metal airsoft rifle its designed for and don't expect the nominal recoil from the .22 to put too muck strain on it, it's just the fit.

It's only cheap(ish) if it works, it's an expensive piece of junk if it doesn't.

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I would say the given the recoil of the 15-22 that a lot of "replica" and airsoft accessories would work just the same. Some of the optics I would take a close look at and may hold zero well given I've seen some airsoft rifles with MORE recoil than the 15-22. Anything you choose to get, I would stay with aluminum and stay clear of plastic/polymer.

Let's face it, no one it taking down an Elk with a 15-22 or trekking through across Afghanistan with it.

Some of the models of sights that TruGLO, center point, fire field, etc put out are just rebranded airsoft-ish optics anyway.

I'd also say that $150 for a replica Trijicon fiber ACOG with RMR to put on a 15-22 is so much more reasonable than $1400 if it maintains zero and does what you need it to do.

Understand though, you're GOING to get the "holier than thou" responses and criticism for even asking if "airsoft" accessories will work on the weapon.

If it works for you... Go for it.


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kingfhb said:
Understand though, you're GOING to get the "holier than thou" responses and criticism for even asking if "airsoft" accessories will work on the weapon.
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So, any opinions that differ from yours are "holier than thou".
Gotcha. :rolleyes:

Sco77w, there is obviously no need to put expensive optics and accessories meant for centerfire rifles in combat environments on a 15-22. Nobody will ever say that. It's a range toy.
Of course, you can if you want to, since it's your rifle.

However, there's also no need to buy the cheapest Chinese knockoff garbage you can find on eBay. There's a happy medium between the two extremes. This is dictated by your budget and requirements. Those are the first things you should determine.
Spend some time reading through some of the forum threads. There are several that discuss this very question.
 
So, any opinions that differ from yours are "holier than thou".
Gotcha.
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Sorry, no... unless you'd like to take it that way, then have at it. I was simply saying that he's going to get those "I WOULD NEVER PUT THAT ON MY RIFLE" comments, and that he should expect them. Not to mention those who would insist that anything other than the top of the line optic would be suitable for their weapon, or those who would degrade him for even asking. Or even those who would disagree just to cause problems or an argument.

Just trying to help the guy out and give him an honest opinion.

Of course, you can if you want to, since it's your rifle.
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Just as I said... "If it works for you... Go for it." I never said my opinion was the best one either. I never said I was "Thou".

There's always someone ready to stir up something.

Sco77w - The Airsoft ACE Skeleton stock is Polymer also, where the 556 version is Aluminum... not that on the 15-22 that would make a huge difference, just letting you know.
 
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I wouldn't have a problem putting NCStar gear on a 15-22. I have a $35 red dot sight, which closely resembles an AimPoint Pro, on an airsoft AR-15.

Laugh you may, but the bolt is gas operated, the recoil is comparable to a real M4 clone, and I can shoot in the basement without risking life and limb.
 
The ACE probably will not work, it fits over a rifle buffer tube which is round and the 15-22 has a carbine buffer tube which has the 6 position stop on the bottom of it.

That being said almost everything on my 15-22 is Airsoft. Both "quality" parts and the cheap nasty stuff. Currently it is equipped with a no name brand ABS plastic stock, but a CRANE SOCOM stock.

The only real world parts on it are the Surefire 9P with a LED turbohead and the CAA modular grip. Everything else is either Magpul PTS or Airsoft.

Like Chanttanooga says, most things that will break Airsoft parts will trash a 15-22 anyway.



The 9P and the CAA grip are "real", the Crane stock is cheap plastic, the cut off VFG is a Magpul PTS, the rear sight is a Magpul knockoff, the front sight hub is a Unity Tactical Fusion mount (I REALLY want a real one of these) and the sight is a NC Star "holo".

This picture was taken with a LED drop in, not the larger high output LED Turbo head. But you get the idea.

There are some parts I'd suggest getting the real world items for, like sights, but I have not been let down by my knockoff sights yet.

But then I'm shooting minute of badguy out to about 25m with only the occasional shot out to 100m in 3 gun matches. For squirrel or something you may need better.

It may not be important to you, but for people living outside of the States, there is no ITAR restriction on Airsoft parts.


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Neumann said:
...AimPoint Pro, on an airsoft AR-15...Laugh you may...the recoil is comparable to a real M4 clone, and I can shoot in the basement without risking life and limb.
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Seriously? Your airsoft gun recoils like an actual M4? I'm not laughing, I am AMAZED. How do they do that?
 
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The ACE probably will not work, it fits over a rifle buffer tube which is round and the 15-22 has a carbine buffer tube which has the 6 position stop on the bottom of it.

That being said almost everything on my 15-22 is Airsoft. Both "quality" parts and the cheap nasty stuff. Currently it is equipped with a no name brand ABS plastic stock, but a CRANE SOCOM stock.

The only real world parts on it are the Surefire 9P with a LED turbohead and the CAA modular grip. Everything else is either Magpul PTS or Airsoft.

Like Chanttanooga says, most things that will break Airsoft parts will trash a 15-22 anyway.



The 9P and the CAA grip are "real", the Crane stock is cheap plastic, the cut off VFG is a Magpul PTS, the rear sight is a Magpul knockoff, the front sight hub is a Unity Tactical Fusion mount (I REALLY want a real one of these) and the sight is a NC Star "holo".

This picture was taken with a LED drop in, not the larger high output LED Turbo head. But you get the idea.

There are some parts I'd suggest getting the real world items for, like sights, but I have not been let down by my knockoff sights yet.

But then I'm shooting minute of badguy out to about 25m with only the occasional shot out to 100m in 3 gun matches. For squirrel or something you may need better.

It may not be important to you, but for people living outside of the States, there is no ITAR restriction on Airsoft parts.


KBK
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Cheers, this is the info I need. I may have to re-think my stock options.
 
There are varying grades of Air Soft stuff.. MadBull is one of the premier manufacturers
of AirSoft goodies, they go the extra mile, they get the official licensing etc. I would not
be afraid to use their parts on my 15-22!

As for recoil on AirSoft, there are different types of AirSoft rifles, there are AEG
(Automatic Electric Gearbox), Springer (single shot) and GBB (Gas Blow Back).
A Gas Blow Back M4 hammers pretty dang hard!
 
I would think some of it would work just fine. Airsoft guns are banged around a lot more than you would want your 15-22 to.
 
As far as optics I have heard that airsoft optics have to withstand recoil in both directions and can be tougher than those designed for firearms not sure how accurate that info is as it was a verbal exchange with a seller of optics.
 
gm272gs said:
Seriously? Your airsoft gun recoils like an actual M4? I'm not laughing, I am AMAZED. How do they do that?
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The bolt carrier group looks and operates much like my Colt 6920. It slams back when fired, giving the same sensation as from .223. It's not quite as much recoil, but surprisingly close. The gas comes from liquid propane stored in the magazine, and is enough to fire between 60 and 90 times before recharging.

It's a KWA LM4 PTR. I bought it for fun, and to teach my grandchildren the fundamentals of marksmanship before going to the range. It can't load real ammunition, and the parts aren't interchangeable, but the field stripping is accurate. It holds a 1" group at 30 feet and will punch through both sides of a pop can.

Something's working, because he and his older brother are playing tic-tac-toe targets at 100 yards at the range with the Colt.
 
OP: That Madbull ACE stock won't work as it uses an airsoft buffer tube.

I'm using Madbull Bamboo rail covers on my 15-22 and they work fine.

You can probably use an airsoft clone optic, but you may be able to find a Primary Arms optic that could possible be cheaper than a similar airsoft China clone, and likely higher quality.
 
The ACE stock may work depending on what weapon it is meant for. I just sold an Airsoft M4 that accepted all MIL-SPEC parts.

Actually, the buffer tube of that rifle would probably work on the 15-22 as they are both just held on with a screw. If I'm not mistaken, the 15-22 buffer tube has a dust cap on the end with a screw down at the receiver that holds it on. If that's correct, the buffer tube that connects the same way should screw on and provide you with a Mil-Spec tube that would accept the ACE stock. It's made of a very thick polymer and is pretty durable.

Just an idea.


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Neumann said:
The bolt carrier group looks and operates much like my Colt 6920. It slams back when fired, giving the same sensation as from .223. It's not quite as much recoil, but surprisingly close. The gas comes from liquid propane stored in the magazine, and is enough to fire between 60 and 90 times before recharging.

It's a KWA LM4 PTR. I bought it for fun, and to teach my grandchildren the fundamentals of marksmanship before going to the range. It can't load real ammunition, and the parts aren't interchangeable, but the field stripping is accurate. It holds a 1" group at 30 feet and will punch through both sides of a pop can.

Something's working, because he and his older brother are playing tic-tac-toe targets at 100 yards at the range with the Colt.
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Seriously, the rifle operates on a highly flammable gas????
 
kingfhb said:
The ACE stock may work depending on what weapon it is meant for. I just sold an Airsoft M4 that accepted all MIL-SPEC parts.

Actually, the buffer tube of that rifle would probably work on the 15-22 as they are both just held on with a screw. If I'm not mistaken, the 15-22 buffer tube has a dust cap on the end with a screw down at the receiver that holds it on. If that's correct, the buffer tube that connects the same way should screw on and provide you with a Mil-Spec tube that would accept the ACE stock. It's made of a very thick polymer and is pretty durable.

Just an idea.


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That is NOT correct.

The 15-22 "Receiver Extension" is molded as one unit with the lower receiver.
 
I just pulled my rifle and took a look and realized that is the case. How are the "pistol" models? I may be thinking of those. I remember reading about cutting the buffer tube as well. I haven't had a problem fitting anything to my 15-22 stock-wise... It has a Mil-Spec diameter tube, my Magpul CTR stock works perfectly. There has to be a thread here about using the ACE.


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Actually it has a Mil Spec diameter tube, but that isn't the issue.

The 15-22's tube is molded in the lower. It isn't removable and it is a CARBINE buffer tube. The ACE is meant to go on a RIFLE buffer tube.
Rifle tube :

Carbine tube

Comparison :


The ridge will prevent the ACE fitting on the carbine stock. If you want a fixed stock Magpul make one. You _can_ replace the buffer tube/receiver extension on the 15-22 but it requires cutting the lower and probably epoxy.

As for the Gas Blow Back guns, yeah they run on propane or even butane. Red and Green gas are designed to run airsoft guns and I believe green gas is just propane with silicone oil in it. It is also flammable. Don't shoot your gun near flames. That being said it does not burn when shot.

The recoil of a GBB Airsoft rifle is close to that of a 15-22. The Airsoft company near me won't sell you some parts (specifically optics) if it is going on a GBB because the recoil will damage the optic. So make sure you ASK if it'll work on a GBB before guying it for a 15-22.
 
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