Holsters Makers: Hermann H. Heiser Archive

I’m away from my catalogs for a while, I’ll update when I return home.
Here’s a model 225 holster that came with a letter from Roy Jinks.
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Regards,
 
third type of snap button fitted on the H.H.Heiser holster

In a recent conversation with turnerriver we noted the use of a third type of snap buttons.
Probably during the war period,
given the shortage of brass, Heiser had resorted to a particular type of automatic button, this time in bronzed sheet metal with a characteristic 4-petals construction.
 

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In a recent conversation with turnerriver we noted the use of a third type of snap buttons.
Probably during the war period,
given the shortage of brass, Heiser had resorted to a particular type of automatic button, this time in bronzed sheet metal with a characteristic 4-petal construction.

When dating gunleather we do tend to focus on the button vs the socket, as you're noticing now. The type you've shown is pre-war, the one we use today is wartime and into today.

Materials in the snaps are chosen for all kinds of reasons; stainless for maritime for example and originally was brass, to avoid rust from salt water. Ultimately the change to durable snaps was at War's beginning to get a better grip on such as tarpaulins on ship's decks.

One can use a different metal on each of the four parts, for various reasons. Brass for the cap because the P.D. requires brass, but black steel on the other parts because they're cheaper. The eyelets come in different tube lengths depending on material thickness, the caps, too. The studs come with different 'platform' heights for the same reason.

If the maker chooses a cap or eyelet with a too-long barrel for the application, the barrel can either shear off when it is 'clinched' or pile up inside the mating part and interfere with the snap's function. They're a bloody nightmare even for little 'custom' makers.

Ultimately today's small makers don't use snapped straps because one can't count on them being set so well that they don't need replacing before they even leave the shop floor; the machines often shearing off the 'clinch' while the item is still 'work in process'.

Even modern 'security' holster came to rely on the snap as a last resort if the mechanisms of the holster failed, which then defeated the purpose of even having the mechanisms because the snaps can fail anyway. Safariland's security holsters show us just how hard they've battled this conflict.

The snap fastener types we will encounter in gunleather; the images are labelled:
 

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Here are some of the snaps I’ve seen on Heiser holsters, enough of each type to believe they were in use for a while. My opinion only-I have assumed that when Heiser ran out of the brass and black enamel 3 H snaps they went to a cheaper snap and I’ve also assumed there wasn’t much brass available during WW II so they used a pot metal snap. Assumptions-the bane of collectors !
Textured plain brass snap
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Brown enamel Heiser Denver snap, first appears in an early 1940’s
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Brass and black enamel 3 H snap, pre-war up into the 1930’s.
Left holster has what I call a pot metal snap.
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Another pot metal snap.
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Regards,
 
John is our Heiser expert, I've more experience in the making of gunleather. So I'll mention that when viewing a 'cap' or 'button' of the snap such as a Durable, the concave part is a thin stamped shell of metal that has been clinched around the perimeter of an drawn eyelet base, to make a whole part. In such a case the concave cover can be brass and the eyelet attached to it can be another metal. And the several parts to all this are plated variously, in nickel or blackened for rust resistance, before assembly to each other.
 
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Here are some of the snaps I’ve seen on Heiser holsters, enough of each type to believe they were in use for a while. My opinion only-I have assumed that when Heiser ran out of the brass and black enamel 3 H snaps they went to a cheaper snap and I’ve also assumed there wasn’t much brass available during WW II so they used a pot metal snap. Assumptions-the bane of collectors !
Regards,
from this basis, the photos posted by turnerriver, I would try to make a classification of the hardware used by Heiser.
1) Brass and black enamel 3 H
2) Brown enamel Heiser Denver
3) Four petals burnished sheet metal (found more pics with this snap button)
4) Textured large plain brass snap (confirmed with the photos in a post #116 https://smith-wessonforum.com/142078690-post116.html )
5)...........
6)...........
 
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Heiser Model 175 Cross Draw Flap Holster

Belt holsters with flap for revolvers

No.1535---Full hand basket stamped

For my birthday I gave myself a present, (it's nice to tell lies to yourself, I would have bought it anyway!)

This special order 1535 for 6 inch barrel K frame, rawhide laced with snaps buttons on the belt loop.

Now we need the intervention of turnerriver to show his beautiful 1735 and boykinlp with his very special 175 cross draw

Marcello, I was looking back over this fantastic thread while I couldn’t sleep tonight and happened to see your shoutout! Sorry for the late response, but here is the holster you requested:
Larry
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I’m away from my catalogs for a while, I’ll update when I return home.
Here’s a model 225 holster that came with a letter from Roy Jinks.
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Regards,

John, is that holster as long as it looks!:eek: It must have taken a week to do the lace work! Have you already said why it came with a Roy Jinks Letter? Thanks for sharing that, looks to be, giant!
Larry
 
Heiser 950

A "Hand basket stamped" H.H. Heiser 950 for a 2" revolver, fully "Chamois Skin lined" with a Franz-Loc clip installed. This deluxe holster may have sold for as much as $4.00 new.
 

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A "Hand basket stamped" H.H. Heiser 950 for a 2" revolver, fully "Chamois Skin lined" with a Franz-Loc clip installed. This deluxe holster may have sold for as much as $4.00 new.

The first I see of the Franz-Loc in Heiser catalogues is the 1948 edition when the company was owned by The DDG, a major retailer based in Denver, too.

Bear in mind that the price of gold that year was U$35/oz and today it is U$2500/oz. So these holsters cost THEN nearly 10 times the price of gold -- then do the math for today :-). If that comparison is valid for a Colt SA then and now, and it is, then it's valid for a holster.
 

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A "Hand basket stamped" H.H. Heiser 950 for a 2" revolver, fully "Chamois Skin lined" with a Franz-Loc clip installed. This deluxe holster may have sold for as much as $4.00 new.

Lee, I have a duplicate of your holster minus the safety strap. It’s an interesting configuration that appealed to at least 2 people, detectives I’ll guess.
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Heiser Model 7 Mexican Floral Carved Holster

Original Laced Loop Belt Holsters
Lined holster
No.4--- Plain Smooth Finish
No.5--- Hand Basket Stamped
No.7--- Mexican Hand Carved

I was reading the catalog page that Marcello showed us and found something interesting to me in the description information. If you ordered a Model 726, its cost is $4.50. If you ordered a Model 7 like mine, its cost is $5.25. The Model 7 has the following differences: leather lined, open end, and a snap button safety strap installed. Can you imagine getting that much more detailed work done and it only costing an additional 75 cents?:eek: That .75 is around $13 today. I don’t imagine a holster maker today would do the 3 different features above for $13, do you?
Larry
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My last name is Heiser. I’ve read some of the Heiser Leather history. I’ve never run across one in the wild. Interesting thread.
 
Post number 48 WAFFLE STAMPED

Finally found a pics of WAFFLE STAMPED, a nice rifle scabbard sold recently in auction, together a floral carved Colt auto 1722 style holster and a rawhide laced mexican carved flap holster style 734.
 

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Different brand on the Heiser holsters

Holsters produced by Heiser and marked with other brands of traders or wholesalers, or with double branding. An example of one marked VL&A Chicago (Von Lengerke & Antoine) on the safe strap.
Please post photos of your holsters with the different markings.
VL&A pics come from web.
 

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Holster marked Kennedy Hardware Anchorage Alaska on the back side, basket stamped, surely made by Heiser.
 

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I don’t have anything to contribute but a memory. I grew up on ranch north of Cheyenne WY.
When I graduated from high school in 1961 my grandfather told my dad to take me to the Heiser plant in Denver and order a custom saddle. The trip was a big deal in itself back then.
I went through all of their custom features and placed my order.

Two weeks later we returned to Denver to get my saddle.
I can still remember the wonderful aroma of that show room in front of the workshop and all of the wonderful things on display.
I rode that saddle for 20 years. It creaked and squeaked for nearly a year until it broke in. My wife rode it for another 20 when I outgrew it.
It sits on special built rack on the wall of our garage today.
 
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I don’t have anything to contribute but a memory. I grew up on ranch north of Cheyenne WY.
When I graduated from high school in 1961 my grandfather told my dad to take me to the Heiser plant in Denver and order a custom saddle. That was a big deal in itself.
I went through all of their custom features and placed my order.

Two weeks later we returned to Denver to get my saddle.
I can still remember the wonderful aroma of that show room in front of the workshop and all of the wonderful things on display.
I rode that saddle for 20 years and my wife rode it for another 20 when I outgrew it.
It sits on special built rack on the wall of our garage today.

That’s an awesome story, Iggy! I wish I could have seen, and smelled, the Heiser showroom/workshop back then!
Larry
 
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