Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act
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SnidelyWhiplash
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The key word there is if.
In a fair and Constitutional world...we wouldn't need a Reciprocity Act as the laws already mandate reciprocity between states for licenses and such. But...the Second Amendment has always been given second class status for the most part. Only recently has that begun to change.
In a fair and Constitutional world...we wouldn't need a Reciprocity Act as the laws already mandate reciprocity between states for licenses and such. But...the Second Amendment has always been given second class status for the most part. Only recently has that begun to change.
“If it reaches his desk”.
OP
Exactly!
Still, it is more promising than "Hell yes, we are going to take your AR-15..."
I can see the snout of the camel. If it gets passed then Uncle
Sugar will think he can dictate what conditions Reciprocity is
allowed to occur.
And the usual suspects will ignore it.
Sugar will think he can dictate what conditions Reciprocity is
allowed to occur.
And the usual suspects will ignore it.
Hair Trigger
US Veteran
Even better would be 50 state Constitutional Carry. Problem with achieving Concealed Carry reciprocity is, even if it's legal Federally, a state can still prohibit it. I wouldn't count on places like Illinois or California to be okay with it. For my part, though, I have no reason or desire to go to either place.
I thought the “reciprocity” was a rule not a suggestion? It would be like a driver’s license?
On paper. In practice certain states would force it into litigation, drag things out as it works its way up to SCOTUS. Until there are effective sanctions, such as cutting off all LEAA funds until the states comply, HI, IL, NJ, NY and CA will continue to thumb their noses at the Constitution.
robvious
Member
if it is put into a law, it can be taken away... adjudicate it with the same legal means as marriage licenses and drivers licenses.. period... we don't lose Rights by crossing state lines
Exactly. Just more knobs and buttons for the gun haters to tweak.
A large % of Republican pols are anti-carry. There are no Teddy Roosevelts anymore, sadly.
Playing Devil's Advocate here.
Counterpoint would be lawyers, doctors, businesses, etc all have to be granted permission to operate from one state to another. Gun grabbers will point to this PDQ, IMO.
smoothshooter
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smoothshooter
Member
Actually, we do, as a practical matter.
smoothshooter
Member
Massachusetts also.
Alk8944
US Veteran
The reason states can get away with ignoring or denying reciprocity under the "Full Faith and Credit Clause" of the constitution is that it has been generally applied to Licenses, such as drivers and marriage licenses specifically. Most states have enacted legislation regarding concealed carry authorization as a Permit, not a license, and therefore the Full Faith and Credit Clause does not apply! I hope none of you don't believe this was an oversight by the states! 
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robvious
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I understand that argument, but none of those are constitutional rights.. shall not be infringed is pretty simple really.
LostintheOzone
US Veteran
The odds of that are about the same as me winning the lottery or being hit by lightning. But then stranger things have happened.
While not disagreeing with you, that ship has never sailed.
Gun grabbers ignore the 2nd writings like normal people ignore Rosie "where's my food?" O'Donnell. They also believe gun bans will stop all crime & thugs will all hold hands & sing kum by yah or some ****.
I can make an intelligent argument on all things involving guns, IMO. But struggle to point out how a carry permit is different than a lawyer's or doctor's ability to practice in multiple states are different.
But, on the flip side, (as has already been pointed out) drivers licenses & marriage licenses are GTG in 50 states. Again, on the flip side, gay marriage isn't legal in all 50 states & the age of consent varies as well.
Perhaps I need to read more of John Lott & other pro-gun writers, maybe learn how to win this argument?
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