Every time I shoot suppressed brings a big smile to my face.
Hearing Protection Act
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Ellett Bros literally bankrupted because of buying up big for a Clinton win in 2016. Go figure.
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Product safety, baby. Gun makers don't need a license?
Again, if someone was making "dangerous" suppressors, they would go out of business or be sued out of business. No need to regulate.
Is getting a silencer more about proving a point or is it just better to spend $800 on one instead of $20 on a set of ear muffs?
Make your own. Contract killers will have already done this.
Help me understand the need here?
The way I see it, it’s more about exercising a freedom (or not as the case may be) than a necessity, but I’m open and willing to hear arguments for it. I’m all ears.. get it?
I know nothing about them and nothing about current regulations.
I’m a revolver guy.
Make your own. Contract killers will have already done this.
Help me understand the need here?
The way I see it, it’s more about exercising a freedom (or not as the case may be) than a necessity, but I’m open and willing to hear arguments for it. I’m all ears.. get it?
I know nothing about them and nothing about current regulations.
I’m a revolver guy.
It does do that!
For civilian use, silencers shine mostly while hunting. They can be useful on home defense guns. They reduce noise complaints. Having said that, they are not a necessity. I would never trust my hearing to a $20.00 set of ear muffs. Silencers are not a threat to public safety. They reduce the ability of a gun to be concealed.
If someone is willing to use a gun for an illegal purpose, they are also willing to break the law on silencer. I can only think of 2 illegal activities that a silencer would be useful for. Poaching and Murder. If your willing to commit murder breaking the law on silencers isn't a huge step. I find it hard to believe the $200 fee is to stop poaching.
Ah yes. I can understand that. Would make a big difference to not scare the deer or whatever the meal is
Rodan
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Once you've shot a high powered rifle or .22 with a suppressor, you'll never want to go back.
For the most part*, suppressors do not make firearms 'hearing safe'. They do significantly decrease the muzzle signature, reducing noise and concussion. On a high powered rifle, it can lower the signature to the point where a few shots won't do permanent hearing damage. For a hunter, that's significant because it makes hearing protection mostly unnecessary while hunting. On the range, it just makes life a lot more pleasant. Just think about how unpleasant it is shooting next to a centerfire rifle with a muzzle brake, and consider that a suppressor will have the opposite effect...
On an AR, it can reduce the muzzle signature to less than an unsuppressed 9mm, again preventing hearing damage if the gun has to be fired without earpro. I had a co-worker that suffered some permanent hearing damage from a single round out of an AR inside a house... wouldn't have happened with a suppressor.
On a handgun, to me, a suppressor is more of a novelty. I have a 9mm can that is very quiet, and it's fun to shoot, but a handgun with 8" of suppressor hanging off the end is unwieldy, and near impossible to carry in a holster.
* 22s... this is where suppressors really shine. If you stick with standard velocity ammo, most .22s are going to be hearing safe with a good suppressor. Shooting suppressed .22s is very enjoyable, and because they can be much smaller than a centerfire can, they're not terrible on handguns.
I live in the boonies on a farm and always have a couple of long guns close by for dispatching various critters around the house, from a tractor, etc. Having a suppressed rifle is a game changer as before I was searching for ear plugs or taking the shot without ear protection if time was of the essence. You can't predict when unwanted vermin will appear.
As for home defense it might take law enforcement an hour to respond to an emergency call.
For me they prevent further hearing damage with the only real down side being a longer OAL.
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It's about your safety at home
I have one because I'm not risking my hearing on a no-account opportunist. If you're not worried about your hearing, what about your family and pets? I encourage you to explore further, if practical for you. Good luck!
I have one because I'm not risking my hearing on a no-account opportunist. If you're not worried about your hearing, what about your family and pets? I encourage you to explore further, if practical for you. Good luck!
gjgalligan
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I guess I don't get the concept of using a silencer. I would never carry a pistol with one so I can't see the logic of practicing with one. About the only time I could see real world use is on a rifle for hunting from a fixed position.
Edit to add: I would consider getting for my bed stand gun.
But to each their own, I'll agree we need to get rid of the concept of needing a permission slip to to practice a right.
I also don't expect most states to allow National Reciprocity.
Edit to add: I would consider getting for my bed stand gun.
But to each their own, I'll agree we need to get rid of the concept of needing a permission slip to to practice a right.
I also don't expect most states to allow National Reciprocity.
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bushmaster1313
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All guns are suppressed in NJ
You still will if the cartridge is super sonic even with a suppressor......Above 1165 fps......Quiet as on tv.....That's phony
I made purchase. filled paperwork an store sent it in. 7 days later I went in picked up my suppressor. That was 2 weeks ago.
And NY, CA, IL.
The velocity depends on the atmospheric conditions. Air density and temperature is what matters. Seems like the velocity of sound varies between about 1080 or so to 1160 at temperatures we might be shooting in.
TV even silences the sound of the gun action. They can be quite loud in semi-auto firearms. There is no such thing as Hollywood quiet. Even the quietest subsonic loads with suppressor sounds like an air rifle going off.
Rosewood
If you shoot much and you start using a suppressor at the range, you will wonder why you didn't buy one sooner. It is so much more pleasant to shoot with a suppressor installed. So much nicer hunting also. Even using supersonic bullets, it is significantly more pleasant. More considerate of others around you. It also absorbs lots of recoil making it easier for recoil sensitive folks. Lots of benefits that folks don't consider.
Rosewood
I have a .22 supressor for my rifle and pistol and very recently, a .30 cal suppressor for my .300 Blackout subsonic which will also go on my 6.5 Creedmore and .223 AR15s. Will be buying a .45 suppressor soon for my centerfire pistols. The tax stamp, trust, form filing, and gunshop storage fees was a single bill for $309 from my gunshop and I got the stamp and my can in about two weeks.
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