.357 Magnum is obsolete

He's right. The .357 Magnum is obsolete. It's so obsolete, in fact, that in the past decade, there's been a successful autopistol cartridge invented to attempt to duplicate it's capabilities (.357 Sig). One that is enjoying a measure of success, by the way.
 
Has loads from mild to wild.
Has Revolver,Rifle and Semi-Auto variants for public use.

Yeah I can see how might think its on its way out.

I'll even let you send me a few to dispose of ..to save you the embarrasment of having to deal with a old obsolete weapon...
 
The .357 obsolete.....Nonsense.


The .40 is okay for a pistol, but lot's of folks prefer a revolver for countless reasons. Many people, including many seniors, don't care for the recoil or expense of the .44s and higher calibers.

The .357/.38 range of options, available in any number of fine revolvers will continue to have a market for as far into the future as I can see.
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I am not sure I can get the name of the book right, it was written in the early to mid 90's about real world street shootings and they placed the .357 magnum at the top with one shot stops to the torso. Now days there are other calibers like the .357 sig and the .40 S&W has been around longer now and the book doesn't translate into total gospel but it is also hard to ignore the data of the .357 magnum and it's effectiveness with certain loadings. The .357 magnum may be obsolete with Law enforcement on a grand scale as a uniformed carry item but as a whole as a cartridge and it's usage all-around, I would say- No.
 
Uh oh; I picked up a 27-2 and a 357Mag carbine barrel for my Encore last year and deer hunted with them in IN this last season - looks like I messed up! :eek:
 
4inch357 said:
Uh oh; I picked up a 27-2 and a 357Mag carbine barrel for my Encore last year and deer hunted with them in IN this last season - looks like I messed up! :eek:
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Sir, while cartridge fads come and go, deer remain available in the same old standard models. :D

Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.

Ron H.
 
I've been to a lot of shootings over the last 34 years. Rifles, shotguns and handguns, you name it. Nothing and I mean nothing in the realm of handguns has been as devastating as the .357 Magnum 125 grain JHP. Make no mistake, other guns have killed more, especially the 9mm, but as far as just opening up a can of whoop ass on a human body, the .357 is hard to beat. YMMV.;)
 
Hell yes it has been obsoleted...most useless cartridge of all time. Wasn't it Dan Wesson that pushed it to the forefront. Guys like Elmer, Bill Jordan, that other Border Patrol Guy...Skeeter somethin'....and all them others that shined-on about how the Red Gods smiled down from above about that cartridge...

Well about 3 decades ago the .32 H&R Magnum came out. That was the game changer ~ right there. No more need for that other magnum....


giz
 
amd6547 said:
It is a conceit of the wheelman to expect high capacity equals propensity to spray and pray.
I have been a fan of the Browning High Power since before most police started carrying semiautos. I also own a Beretta 92FS. In either case, I count on aimed fire to help the 9mm perform, not volume.
That having been said, I am perfectly confident in the Ruger SP101 3" 357mag, and it's five rounds of DoubleTap 125gn Bonded Core JHP that is in my belt right now.
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Dident mean to diss all hi-cap owner's, heck, I own and like my Hi Power and two S&W M&P's one in 9mm and one in 45ACP. Also I am a 1911 fanatic although all of mine are single stack's. However there is a lot of untrained and uninformed people out there LEO and civilian alike who rely on firepower to get a hit. The last shootout my department was in was a hi rounder with the only hit made was to the roof of one of my patrol car's by one of our Trooper's!
 
Was it Duke Ventura who wrote an article last year that the .44 special was "nothing special"? I'm glad this post did not stir up any strong opinions one way or the other :)

Although I'm an attorney, I don't claim to be an expert like Massad Ayoob on the liability associated with using a "magnum" cartridge for self defense. My experience as a prosecutor in my first job out of school was that you generally don't want to carry anything more powerful than the police carry. This may have changed. Still, I would never want to sit in front of a jury in a civil or criminal case and answer why I shot someone with a magnum round that "many police departments considered excessive and no longer used." You get the point--lawyer b.s. whether it's factual or not, the jury could hear it. That is my main problem with shooting a person with a .357 magnum.

I would feel pretty comfortable shooting any animal other than a grizzly bear or a big moose or buffalo with it, and we don't have them here on the east coast except moose way up north.

Then again, having shot wild hogs before, if you know how nasty they are, I'd probably want my 44.
 
When we were allowed to handgun hunt Deer here in Iowa, The .357 Mag. has been used to take many of our deer, Bucks and does. One well placed shot with a 158 gr. hp , stops them in their tracks, not so with the .40 when they are used..
 
A .357 Magnum has traveled too many woods paths and too many roads with me to get me to vote 'obsolete'. Not to mention, that caliber just turns me on.
 
I have always like the 357 magnum. I used to butcher goats and sheep and found the 125 gr or 158 gr bullets put them quickly and painlessly.if you want more than 6 rounds get a 7 or 8 shot. The 357 was not designed for hunting the 44 was. Get the right tool for the job and you will be ok.
 
Instead of calling it obsolete, I'd call it versatile. Possibly the most versatile revolver/ammo type yet.

From poppers barely strong enough to get through paper targets to 200 grain hardcast shooting through-and-through on whitetails, it can do loads of things. There's lots available for reloaders and tons of factory ammo as well.
 
Yes, the .357 Magnum is obsolete. It definitely does not have the same capability as the .40 S&W to make guns go kaboom. :rolleyes: ;)
 
I'm really glad some folks are convinced that the .357 is obsolete.. now if I could get 'em convinced that old blued smiffs are ALL obsolete, and then get everybody on THAT bandwagon, I'd be able to buy postware transitional M&Ps for a pair of Nike's or some coupons for free carwashes and like that.

Heck, I could clean up just in front of those buy-back places, trading Lorcins and Hi Points for unsafe and dangerous obsolete firearms. It'd almost be a public service.
 
Sometimes when people say things like that they are trying to see if you will show anger or draw first .
 
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