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Which Do You Prefer .22 short, 22 CB Long, 22 Sub-Sonic
I am trying to decide which of the above is first of all the least noisy round and which is the most effective as far a knock down power. Right now I am leaning towards the .22 CB Long rounds, but I have not tried the 22 Sub-Sonic or the .22 short rounds.
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For the combination you are looking for you may want to consider Aguila SSS 60gr.
I use CCI Standard Velocity for suppressed shooting. Never get a supersonic crack when used in a rifle.
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What do you hope to knock-down with a .22?
I like the .22 Colibris. I shoot them inside from my revolvers. But as for knock-down power? I shot a mouse in a trap (in the garage)from about 4ft with a .22 Colibri outta my 4in Mod.63. The bullet actually bounced back off the mouse and hit me in the leg , bounced off my pant leg and landed in front of my feet.
I shoot Remington CB Longs outta my single shot Savage Falling Block for pests now.
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i use some sellier& bellot flobert rounds they are just little "acorns" surprisingly quiet from a rifle but from a revolver they are still too loud for urban pest control.
shooting at a 2x4 in the yard, the bullet striking the board was louder than the report . might be because i was behind the rifle, but quiet none the less.
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What do you hope to knock-down with a .22?
I like the .22 Colibris. I shoot them inside from my revolvers. But as for knock-down power? I shot a mouse in a trap (in the garage)from about 4ft with a .22 Colibri outta my 4in Mod.63. The bullet actually bounced back off the mouse and hit me in the leg , bounced off my pant leg and landed in front of my feet.
I shoot Remington CB Longs outta my single shot Savage Falling Block for pests now.
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how quiet are these colibris rounds in a revolver? would the neighbours hear the shot? assuming it was fired on a typical 1/4 acre lot.
well i guess if it cant penetrate a mouse, it wont help my magpie situation, but it would be fun to shoot in the house once in a while
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Good luck finding anything thats quiet in a revolver.
Get urself a good bolt gun or a pump and then u'll have it made.
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I tried the cb short in a old win. pump and semi auto and they did not have the accuracy that the cb long gave me, plus the cb long was a lot easier to load.
The 40gr sub-sonic HP works a lot better on larger pest than the 29gr solid with as good or better accuracy but also carries a little more noise when fired.
I usually buy more cb longs due to the lower price than the sub-sonic loads from cci,in my area stores.
Plenty good for 25 yard work but they are not tac drivers at 50 yards in my guns, both with 4x scopes.
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Colibri Super from Aguilla. The Supers are a couple hundred FPS faster than the standard Colibri
I buy them a case at a time for use with new students that are afraid of firearms.
These are 20 grain projectiles loaded with no powder.
Over 500FPS with zero recoil from a Model 17. More like 600FPS from a Henry Lever action
Not sure what you are trying to knock down, but these have rid my an my brothers homes of Possum and Racoons.
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I shoot cb's in the closed two car garage. I have a two by four 1/8 inch sheet of aluminum. Made a bar to hold a thick phone book. I place a sticky note on the book for a target. Shoot from about ten feet with a model 34 snub. the sheet is leaned at a slight angle against my roll around tool box. No negatives to report.
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how quiet are these colibris rounds in a revolver?
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They can be fired in the garage without your wife hearing them in the baby's room over the garage.
Neighbors will hear a child's cap gun at the most
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I like the CB's in short or long. I believe the MV is the same for both. I don't know how quiet the others are, but with my old Remington Model 41 Targetmaster, all I can hear is the firing pin strike as if the gun were empty.
There really is not much knock down power though. Probably just a little more than a Benjamin .22 cal pump air rifle. It will knock a squirrel out of a tree, but not anything bigger. JMHO, I really haven't shot anything live with them. Might take a possum up close.
The .22 short is a little more powerful and a little louder.
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For the combination you are looking for you may want to consider Aguila SSS 60gr.
I use CCI Standard Velocity for suppressed shooting. Never get a supersonic crack when used in a rifle.
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I use 22 shorts, but that is because my pistol slide is marked 22 Corto.
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I have shot the Colibri ammo and I do not like it. I have also shot the CCI CB Shorts and CCI CB Longs and while they are good they only shoot a 29gr bullet. The new CCI Quiet-22 ammo is almost as quiet and the CB ammo but shoots a 40gr bullet instead. None of the CCI ammo requires the use of hearing protection, they are all that quiet and all are accurate too.
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I am trying to decide which of the above is first of all the least noisy round and which is the most effective as far a knock down power. Right now I am leaning towards the .22 CB Long rounds, but I have not tried the 22 Sub-Sonic or the .22 short rounds.
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For short range dispatch of vermin I use CCI 22 Short CB caps.
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Here is a target that I shot a few years back with the old Winchester pump rifle. Range was 25 yards, no wind and warm.
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It is the rapidly expanding gas that makes the noise (bang) assuming our bullet is subsonic. The gas is far better contained in the long barrel of a rifle than in the short barrel (with cyl gap) of a revolver or pistol. A semiauto rifle with allow the gas to escape out the action and will give a louder report.
I have issues with garden invaders in my yard - mostly rabbits. I have close neighbors and do not want noise but need to remove the problems. Lately I have been using CCI 22 lr cartridges marked QUIET and listing a mv of around 750 fps. I use a scoped bolt action single shot with a 24" barrel and get hardly any noise from it. These rounds are very nearly as quiet as a 22 short cb and are very accurate.
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I use RWS subsonic exclusively through my 77/22. It's a 40 grain bullet that is consistently subsonic, very quiet, and accurate to the extreme. The AAC Scarab keeps it very quiet. Just a point on the speed of sound; the temperature of the air is the greatest factor on when that speed is reached.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...nd/souspe.html
Just enter a temp and hit the tab key. You can see that really extreme temps, like -40 changes things a lot. A change of 30f can make the bullet go super sonic, depending on its velocity.
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I have used 22 short CB rounds in a Anschutz 22 rifle with 24" barrel indoors and the only thing you can hear is the firing pin dropping. They make no sound even without a supressor. I have used them for a long time as an indoor pistol round with my high standard Olympic and they make very little noise but I was surprised shooting them out of a rifle. For penetration, I can't imagine they would perform well although they do take care of small game and rodents.
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I prefer 22 standard velocity ammo for everything. Remington is the best in my experience.
If you're lookng for something quiet to drop a rodent in a near by tree in the city, see about getting some old bb or cb caps.
Sounds like clapping your hands.
Will drop the rodent without bothering the neighbors.
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I've had fun with all of them. With a Henry lever action and a Ruger Single Ten, I can enjoy about every type of 22 lr there is.
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sub sonics
The CCI Long sub sonics work well for me in a bolt action rifle, single fed.
They have dispatched a number of coons in live traps. And I have shot a few coons eating my bird feed, at about 15 yards. I generally lung shoot them and they run 20-30 yards and tip over.
They are not super quiet but am not aware that anyone has heard me shoot.
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I am trying to decide which of the above is first of all the least noisy round and which is the most effective as far a knock down power. Right now I am leaning towards the .22 CB Long rounds, but I have not tried the 22 Sub-Sonic or the .22 short rounds.
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The new CCI QUIET .22's are excellent! Out of a bolt action rifle they are extremely quiet and adequately accurate. I also like them because they are a FULL 40 grain bullet as opposed to the Shorts and CB's being 29 grains. If you are going to get the CB's, the Longs are better than the Shorts and I actually think they are quieter than the Shorts. The standard .22 Shorts (not the CB's) are OK but slightly louder than the "Quite" - CCI's are. The standard Shorts are not easy to find and when you do they are not cheap - but what else is new?!
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