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22LR bucket o' bullets
I was in wally world today so I just had to see what their 22 ammo was going for.
I bought a Remington bucket o' bullets 22lr. 1400 rounds of 36gr plated hollow point 1280fps for $60 plus tax. The clerk said they had just dropped the price on them. I decided getting a bucket of bullets was a good idea.
I am not sure how much I paid for these at Academy during the 22lr shortage a couple years ago but I think it was over $100.
I checked just now online at Bass Pro/ Cabellas and their price is $84.99 for this same bucket o bullets. That's quite a saving at wally's.
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03-19-2019, 10:22 PM
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Agree but not surprising. Figured Wally s will often save over BassPro.
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I buy Federal 550 round boxes from my local Wally for just under $20. They have Remington Thunderbolts even cheaper. I like the Federal best and buy 5 boxes at a time. The Federal are plated and cleaner shooting than the Remington. My wife and I have shot a half dozen boxes over the winter and only had 3 or 4 duds total. They’re pretty accurate too.
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That seems about the right price for a bucket
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Lots of places asking @$140 a tub back during the shortage.
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$60 bucks for the Bucket. Approximately $4 bucks in taxes in your area = $64.00 total.
$64 / 1400 bullets X 500 (one brick) = equivelent of $22.86 per Brick of 500.
Just so you are aware. much better ammo like Federal, American Eagle is currently selling for under $20 / brick. Target Sports charges no tax and no freight when a case is bought. Not so much just the savings ( $8 bucks) but Federal and AE is far and away better ammo than Remington - and it's 40 grain not 36 as is the Remington. Just saying......
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Not such a hot deal when you can get 40 grain CCI Blazer or standard velocity same price or cheaper.
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THE FOOD IS AWFUL, BUT YOU GET LOT'S OF IT THEORY.
The ammo is dirty. Cost savings is made up for in time spent cleaning. IMO Spend the extra $ for the federals or cci, almost anything else. Then the 20 minute wait for an associate, & another wait for THE ONE WITH THE KEYS.
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03-20-2019, 09:10 AM
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You didn't get gouged, but it isn't that great of a deal either. One thing to keep in mind, those kind of promotional bullets are usually factory seconds. Ammo from lots, that had too much variation in velocity, did not meed accuracy standards, or higher rate of misfires. The list of shortcomings goes on and on. The overall quality is hit or miss. OK for plinking, but less suitable for anything more demanding.
With the rimfire shortage over now, you can get first run quality ammo now, for the same price or less. Enjoy the bucket of bullets, but next time, consider the other options out there.
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You didn't get gouged, but it isn't that great of a deal either. One thing to keep in mind, those kind of promotional bullets are usually factory seconds. Ammo from lots, that had too much variation in velocity, did not meed accuracy standards, or higher rate of misfires. The list of shortcomings goes on and on. The overall quality is hit or miss. OK for plinking, but less suitable for anything more demanding.
With the rimfire shortage over now, you can get first run quality ammo now, for the same price or less. Enjoy the bucket of bullets, but next time, consider the other options out there.
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How do you know that? Is that something that was put out by their factory and I missed it?
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They've had 500 round boxes of Thunderbolts for $15. Dirty? Yes. But dang. Those same boxes were going for $39 during the last shortage.
After a box of those I'll field strip my Marlin, lay it over a paint roller tray, brush the guts out with kerosene, dry, and reassemble. All my 22 revolver requires is a 5 minute wipe-down with an oily rag and a brush through the cylinders.
Shoot, have fun, and be thankful for your bucket.
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I buy Federal 550 round boxes from my local Wally for just under $20. They have Remington Thunderbolts even cheaper. I like the Federal best and buy 5 boxes at a time. The Federal are plated and cleaner shooting than the Remington. My wife and I have shot a half dozen boxes over the winter and only had 3 or 4 duds total. They’re pretty accurate too.
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I'd stay away from those Remington Thunderbolts if you're shooting at an indoor range, unless you bring a respirator. After 10 rounds, it'll be so cloudy in there, you won't even be able to see your target.
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PAST PRICES ARE IRRELEVANT
In the 50's prices were lower too. The prices NOW is what's relevant.
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03-20-2019, 01:38 PM
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I do not buy any ammo with the name Remington on it..especially 22lr.
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03-20-2019, 02:40 PM
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Oh ****, he went and said it
My theory on the buckets...they gotta have someplace to dispose of all the rounds that fail quality control. :-b
The last, and I mean last ever, batch of bulk remington .22 ammo I had, 1 in 6 wouldn't chamber in my revolver (not a tight chamber either) without forcing it. And almost as many primer failures.
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You usually get what you pay for with .22 ammo. I had heard Thunderbolt was the very worst of the .22 LR ammo. I bought a carton about a year ago, fired it in a couple of rifles and several handguns. It wasn't nearly as bad as what some had said, but it's important to realize that there is little in the way of lot-to-lot consistency with the real cheap stuff. The next lot of Thunderbolt may be better or worse.
If you have minimal interest in accuracy and only want to hit cans at 25 yards on a fairly regular basis, there's no point in going beyond the lowest priced ammo you can find. If you want something that's reasonably accurate, functions reliably in semi-autos, and always fires, you have to spend a little more money.
I'd buy at least eight or ten (more is better) samples of various ammos. Shoot groups from a benchrest. This will tell you what need to know. Acceptable ammo for your gun or guns will be likely be more expensive than the bargain junk, but the extra cost is worth it.
All .22 rimfire ammo is dirty, but perhap some is dirtier than others; I've never really noticed. However, the cleaning time and effort is the about the same for all of it.
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All .22 rimfire ammo is dirty, but perhap some is dirtier than others; I've never really noticed. However, the cleaning time and effort is the about the same for all of it.
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I shoot only Federal 36gr hp copper washed out of my Model 17. I shoot many 100's between cleanings.. and it's not bad when I do.
plus it has the best extraction of any ammo I have tried..
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You didn't get gouged, but it isn't that great of a deal either. One thing to keep in mind, those kind of promotional bullets are usually factory seconds. Ammo from lots, that had too much variation in velocity, did not meed accuracy standards, or higher rate of misfires. The list of shortcomings goes on and on. The overall quality is hit or miss. OK for plinking, but less suitable for anything more demanding.
With the rimfire shortage over now, you can get first run quality ammo now, for the same price or less. Enjoy the bucket of bullets, but next time, consider the other options out there.
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Sounds like the same bucket o' bunk I heard about Ruger 10-22's and Remington 870's sold at Walmart as factory seconds. Don't believe it for a second!
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I have found that CCI has the most consistant powder loads and priming of all the inexpensive rounds. Blazer or Standard Velocity are my go to of choice. FWIW, Blazer are subsonic in pistols because of barrel length, as are most HV 36 and 40 grain rounds. The hyper velocity are supersonic and not as accurate.
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Just my opinion, but here's my .22 ammo ranking by brand.......
#1) CCI
#2) Federal and American Eagle
#3) Winchester
#4) anything else
#5) Remington
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I agree with chief38's ranking of the good stuff, but I say that Winchester ranks the worst. Xpert makes thunderbolts seem worthwhile.
.22 is reasonable in quantity right now. I'm stocking up on cases of CCI Blazer and standard velocity. Free shipping deals are out there, and CCI has a rebate if you act now.
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The cleanest shooting ammo of any caliber that I've used is, Fiocchi. In 22LR, Armscor is 2nd and what I usually go with since it is usually less expensive and more readily available.
Federal is OK too but, I steer well clear of their American Eagle brand in 22LR. I bought two 50 round boxes once because they were $2.99 each.
Out of the first 30 or so rounds, I had about 7 FTE's, 3 duds, 2 or 3 that barely had enough power to clear the barrel (hit the ground well short of the target) and 1 actually stopped in the barrel.
After I got my barrel clear, I tossed the rest of them in the garbage and never looked back.
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22lr ammo brands all get good and bad smack against them. I have to say 22lr is probably the worst ammo for having guns being so picky about. What fires good in one gun might have all sorts of problems in another gun. So many trash Thunderbolt ammo but my MK Rugers have the least failures with it. As far as lead build up using lead bullets I have no problem with my handguns. I haven't even had a problem with my model 60 rifle leading.
I am hoping these Remingtons work okay. It has been a long time since I shot any of them. I mostly shoot Thunderbolts and have perhaps only a few dead rounds in a box of 500. I only use 22 for plinking so it's no big deal if I get an occasional ftf or fte.
I bought a brick of Aguila SuperSonic and they were total jammers in my Rugers that seldom if ever jam with Thunderbolt. A friend's Walther 22lr pistol loved them but would jam with the Thunderbolts. Go figure!
Afterwards I realized I could have bought 3 bricks of Thunderbolts totaling 1500 rounds for less than I paid for this 1400 round bucket of Remingtons. Oh well I wanted to try out some Remington 22lr so I can have at it now. Will see how well my Ruger MKs and Marlin 60 that seldom have problems shooting most 22lr will like them.
I will report my findings.
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Buy now.
I buy CCI in .22 because it always performed so well, but I am an advocate of stocking up on any ammo you like and use. I think that in a very few years people will look back in amazement at the current prices and availability of ammunition.
Look to California as the template for what may be coming to your home town. No internate ammo sales, register to buy ammo, no importation of out of state ammo, limited availability at only a few licensed brick and mortar stores...It’s no joke folks. The California gun and ammo market was huge and choking off that market can only serve to hurt the availability and pricing for everyone.
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I'm really surprised at the vitriol at the Remington Thunderbolts. That used to be the "go to" ammo for plinking because it was so inexpensive. I'm still shooting stuff I stockpiled in the '80s at $0.50 a box. Has it changed that much where it's now junk?
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Golden Bullets work just fine in my Ruger Mark IV. Decent accuracy and not too dirty.
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Shooting report.
These Remington shot well in my Marlin 60. There were a couple duds but they shot the second time around. Over all they did as expected for 22lr. A glitch here and there. I didn't have any feed problems with them in the 60.
In my Ruger SR22c I had a few stove pipes that I had to drop the magazine and the bullet was standing straight up from the magazine. Reinsert the bullet into the magazine and good to go again. My SR22 has a little bad taste for feeding them I guess. These are hollow points so the nose is a bit more flat than the round nose lead Thunderbolts. The Tbolts do feed better than these Remingtons do in my SR22.
Thunderbolts get a lot of bad rap but I haven't had what I would call a bad run of rounds in any bricks I have shot. I have shot more 22lr than any other caliber. I would say I might sometimes have 6 duds in a Thunderbolt brick of 500. Using Thunderbolt ammo I shot a rabbit from 50 yards using the iron sights on my Model 60 and put the bullet right below the rabbits ear. Gee I guess I had a good round.
I have to laugh at what some call junk ammo. I do feel it often isn't the ammo but rather some guns are just finicky towards the ammo.
I can say I got a bucket of bullets for little cost and not sorry I bought them. Next batch I will again be buying Thunderbolts though. Like some say...one man's junk is another man's treasure. I am still waiting to find a bottle on the beach with a Jeanie inside.
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My model 41 decided it likes Remington Golden. But the 50 ct. pack has different specs than the bucket. They are not the same.
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In comparison with good ammo, six duds in a brick would certainly qualify as junk ammo.
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My Walter TPH copy, an old American Arms PX, only shoots Remington 22 accurately and without failures. Everything else in my stable of 22 pistols and rifles want CCI. Oddly one Ruger 10-22 likes Aquila 40gr. Again, go figure.
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I have to laugh at what some call junk ammo. I do feel it often isn't the ammo but rather some guns are just finicky towards the ammo.
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You're spot on here. IMHO, .22 semi-autos, both pistol and rifle, are much more finicky than any center fire caliber. I think the perfect guns for .22s, neither or which I own, are a double-action revolver and a pump rifle.
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