bushmaster1313
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If you enjoy shooting and want to be able to shoot often even when prices get high, buy a lot of ammo when prices are good.
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Disturbing memo from SG Ammo
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max503
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My wife and I don't go through a lot of meat. If it dries up the squirrels in my back yard are in serious trouble. But hey, isn't that one reason I stocked up on 22 ammo?
max503
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Funny. My Walmart has plenty of 22 on the shelf. Wonder when the panic is going to hit here?
Mr. Wonderful
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Like Sistema1927 does...
When thinking about ammo needs...
“Buy it cheap and stack it deep.”
That’s good advice. Keep it in mind, because as we have seen several times, history repeats itself.
Best wishes everyone.
Roger aka Mr. Wonderful
When thinking about ammo needs...
“Buy it cheap and stack it deep.”
That’s good advice. Keep it in mind, because as we have seen several times, history repeats itself.
Best wishes everyone.
Roger aka Mr. Wonderful
Bozz10mm
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I slowly stocked up over the past 6 years on all the calibers I shoot just in case something like this happened again. I've been keeping a couple thousand rounds of each on hand. With the current situation I have no worry of an ammo shortage...as long as I don't shoot it.
I went to the range yesterday for the first time in over two months. My range just reopened on the 14th.
Took 150 rounds of 9mm and 125 rounds of 300 Blk Out. Couldn't get myself to shoot it all. Ended up only firing 50 rounds of the 9mm and 30 rounds of the 300 BO. Then just shot the bull with the other guys for a while.
I went to the range yesterday for the first time in over two months. My range just reopened on the 14th.Took 150 rounds of 9mm and 125 rounds of 300 Blk Out. Couldn't get myself to shoot it all. Ended up only firing 50 rounds of the 9mm and 30 rounds of the 300 BO. Then just shot the bull with the other guys for a while.
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Sir, with all due respect, you are the problem, whether you realize it or not. It doesn't take all that many people like you to cause a shortage, and then exacerbate a shortage, not just in the short term but the long term as well.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to large buys or having large stocks so ammo, but timing matters. I bought 9,000 rounds of CCI Standard Velocity from a local shop selling it for $24.99 per brick of 500 last June. I bought 9K as 3K fit nicely in a .50 caliber ammo can and I had three empty cans to fill to bring me back to my normal reserve levels.
That was on top of another 10K I had on hand of SK Std Plus, purchased online in 2000 and 4000 round lots, plus a few thousand rounds of bulk packed plinking ammo acquired locally.
The difference is that all of my ammo was purchased when it was not in short supply, reasonably priced, and with no shortage in sight. I bought it proactively, knowing there would eventually be, for one reason or another, a future shortage.
I won't be buying any ammo until the shortage has passed, but shooters will over buy now with a looming shortage and will ensure:
1. the shortage occurs;
2. the shortage is a lot deeper than it needs to be; and
3. the shortage lasts a lot longer than it needs to last;
because people acting as a herd tend to be very short sighted and make very poor decisions.
The irony of course is that shooters as a group tend to denigrate people acting as a "herd" or as "sheeple", but when push comes to shove most demonstrate quite well that they talk the talk but don't walk the walk. To be fair however, most just don't recognize their behavior as being sheep like.
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You still have a choice to make.
If you do indeed "buy another case or two just to be ready" you'll be doing your bit to cause a shortage, make the shortage deeper, and make the shortage last longer.
If on the other hand, you start walking the walk, advise moderation in ammo purchases now and create social pressure on your peers to avoid panic buying and hoarding after the crisis has started, you'll be doing a lot to reduce the shortage and shorten the length of the shortage.
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"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
Charles Mackay, preface to "Extraordinary Popular Delusions the Madness of Crowds" 1841.
Then there are some like me who had done some testing and decided to buy a significant amount of reloading components just when this virus thing hit. At least I'm in the que. Yeah, these e-mails sg ammo sound a lot like late night tv ads. All they lack is the, "BUT WAIT! ORDER NOW AND..."
Every year there is "panic" in Florida when a Tropical Storm is announced and the media beats it until it becomes a Hurricane.
Why do people wait until then to get some canned food, bottles of water, gas for generators and batteries?? Every year it is the same thing. Stores are cleaned out??
It's just crazy
Can not figure out the hoarding, panic driven mentality.
Why do people wait until then to get some canned food, bottles of water, gas for generators and batteries?? Every year it is the same thing. Stores are cleaned out??
It's just crazy
Can not figure out the hoarding, panic driven mentality.
Every year there is "panic" in Florida when a Tropical Storm is announced and the media beats it until it becomes a Hurricane.
Why do people wait until then to get some canned food, bottles of water, gas for generators and batteries?? Every year it is the same thing. Stores are cleaned out??
It's just crazy
Can not figure out the hoarding, panic driven mentality.
Gotta get some plywood, right? I've always wondered, what did they do with the plywood they rushed out and bought last hurricane?
Valmet
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Ordered a case of 9mm from them a few days ago and is scheduled for delivery sometime tomorrow.
Bob's Bullets continues normal operations with normal pricing. Cast, size & lube, reload, shoot, tumble brass. Repeat as required, my wife allows, or the weather permits.
Average ammo cost per box of 50 in 38 Spl, 9 MM, 40 S&W, 45 ACP is $2.25. That is about the cost of 22 LR in normal times. Now, in the current selling climate, am I saving money casting and reloading?
RCBS Rock Chucker and Lyman sizer / luber were bought in 1974. I stopped buying moulds in 2002, bought my last sizer die [ .223 Rem RCBS small base X-die sizer] 2015. When I bought a new bullet mould, I cast 1,000 bullets. My bullet storage boxes are 5" wide x 4" deep x 12" long. The bad news is a full box of 45 ACP 200 grain SWC weights 38+ pounds. My reloading and casting "stuff" was paid for by savings years ago.
Prevailing wind is from the west, garage faces east, I stay dry with a floor fan at my back on a rainy day casting in the garage with overhead door open.
At the indoor range yesterday, talking to a couple who were new shooters, and made the comment "I have plenty of bullets." when I offered to let the lady shoot a steel S&W 22 LR revolver instead of a compact polymer 9 MM semiauto that caused her to seriously flinch. 12 rounds later she was all smiles. The people who heard "plenty of bullets" were still annoyed at the old guy.
Average ammo cost per box of 50 in 38 Spl, 9 MM, 40 S&W, 45 ACP is $2.25. That is about the cost of 22 LR in normal times. Now, in the current selling climate, am I saving money casting and reloading?
RCBS Rock Chucker and Lyman sizer / luber were bought in 1974. I stopped buying moulds in 2002, bought my last sizer die [ .223 Rem RCBS small base X-die sizer] 2015. When I bought a new bullet mould, I cast 1,000 bullets. My bullet storage boxes are 5" wide x 4" deep x 12" long. The bad news is a full box of 45 ACP 200 grain SWC weights 38+ pounds. My reloading and casting "stuff" was paid for by savings years ago.
Prevailing wind is from the west, garage faces east, I stay dry with a floor fan at my back on a rainy day casting in the garage with overhead door open.
At the indoor range yesterday, talking to a couple who were new shooters, and made the comment "I have plenty of bullets." when I offered to let the lady shoot a steel S&W 22 LR revolver instead of a compact polymer 9 MM semiauto that caused her to seriously flinch. 12 rounds later she was all smiles. The people who heard "plenty of bullets" were still annoyed at the old guy.
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I have read all the above post and see multiple references to "SGAmmo". Who is the company? Is it Sportsman' Guide? Just wondering. I have plenty of ammo, except the odd calibers.
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SG Ammo is the name of the company. "SG" stands for Sam Gabbert, the owner. They are a very reputable family-operated online sales company, and many of us here buy ammo from them. Currently they are operating with a greatly reduced staff due to the COVID-19 mess, so they've reduced their offerings accordingly.
Sistema1927
US Veteran
This thread made me do another inventory of my ammo supply. Everything looked good, but I did notice that even though I have an unopened 1080 round can of 1980's Korean M1 carbine ammo, that I only had two mags of soft points. Went on SGAmmo, and they had 500 rounds at a decent price. Received an email from them today that my order was "complete", meaning that it is boxed up ready to go out the door with tomorrow's shipments. I should have it by the end of the week.
JJEH
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Well, part of me agrees but the other part disagrees with it. SG Ammo is a retailer. As a retailer myself I agree with common cartridges are being currently out of stock, I do have some ammo on backorder and no clue when the order will be filled. Other's are well stocked still. Not sure if ammo factories are shutting down or just reduce production, either way there will still be a supply, even if it's lean.
Manufacturers like Buffalo Bore and Weatherby (both sell consumer direct) still have ammo in stock. Suzie (Buffalo Bore) told me they are fully stocked and will never price gouge, and I can tell you it's true. They did raise their price a bit in 2018 or 2019 (long before the pandemic) but that's it.
So if I really need ammo I buy factory direct at MSRP rather than online from a private person trying to make a quick buck!
Manufacturers like Buffalo Bore and Weatherby (both sell consumer direct) still have ammo in stock. Suzie (Buffalo Bore) told me they are fully stocked and will never price gouge, and I can tell you it's true. They did raise their price a bit in 2018 or 2019 (long before the pandemic) but that's it.
So if I really need ammo I buy factory direct at MSRP rather than online from a private person trying to make a quick buck!
