Okay, how do you draw your gun out of a pocket holster?

The pocket holster that I make has a rectangular profile with corners which catch on the inside of the pocket. That same profile also allows you to place your thumb on the top edge of the holster and push down, separating the firearm from the holster as you draw.
 
i have the blackhawk size 3 for my shields(and 40c when i carried it). all 3 come out of the holster with it still in pocket...no effort on my part...if i want the holster to come out too, i have to grab the holster, i can't just pull the gun...
 
We use DeSantis and they work very well.

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My solution is cheap pocket holsters that work well. After a few months they don't. I replace them. You can also use baby powder in them which helps for awhile but since they cost less
than $20 I just replace mine for a S&W 642-1 stainless steel snub nose revolver. My CA 44 has an external hammer and I carry it in a paddle holster instead. Don't like the idea of it snagging on anything.
 
Personal opinion...you don't. I don't agree with pocket carry, please hear me out. There are no ranges, public or private that I am aware of, that allow customers/members to practice/train at drawing a pistol from a pocket under stress induced or even non-stress induced conditions. Why? Because it is too dangerous and their insurance carrier would eat them alive in premiums. I doubt that even 1% of people that routinely pocket carry have ever done any formal training on this tactic.

Even IDPA sanctioned "BUG Matches" do not allow the participant to draw the gun from the position that it would be carried in. Why, because nobody really trains at it and it becomes too dangerous. They set up stages where you are at a restaurant seated at a table when a violent encounter begins. They have you picked the gun up off of the table from under a menu?

I have two very gun savvy associates whom have shot themselves in the leg while pocket carrying, one putting the gun in the pocket, one taking it out, both under administrative conditions. Hip carry....it works.

End of rant.
 
I have two very gun savvy associates whom have shot themselves in the leg while pocket carrying, one putting the gun in the pocket, one taking it out, both under administrative conditions. Hip carry....it works.

End of rant.

Striker fired or hammerless auto? Hammer auto carried cocked and locked? Which one was it? The only time I have ever heard of a DA revolver going off in a pocket was when a guy was in a bar and cocked it in his pocket and then decided he wasn't going to shoot and tried to let the hammer down while it was still in his pocket. It was a back pocket so not much damage. There is a reason some of us never carry cocked and locked without a strap between the frame and hammer and never carry a striker fired or hammerless auto with one in the barrel. Larry
 
Not only should it separate reliably but a good pocket holster design should allow as much of a full firing grip as possible without extra material being pinched between your hand and the gun (thereby gluing the holster to the gun).
 
I have a Desantis pocket holster for my bodyguard .380. It does tend to ride up a little when you are pulling out the gun. I have cleaned the outside a couple time with a cat fur comb but it still like to move.

What I have done to totally eliminate the chance of a holster extraction is to let my trigger finger hit the side of the holster as I draw. It pushes the holster down a little and for me it works quite well. I have practiced a lot (unloaded) and going as fast as a holster like that will do all works well.

This combo is only for going to places / events where the odds are it never will be needed, but hey you never know. Going into more risky areas my SDs .45 goes with me in an inside waistband holster.
 
In theory the holster stays in the pocket when the gun is drawn. In practice it usually comes out with the gun and you have to deal with a holstered gun in your hand.
I gave up on pocket holster and just modified my pocket to hold the J-frame. No holster, the pocket is sorta the holster but it stays in the pants. My mom thought us boys how to do a little cooking and sewing and I'm glad she did. Modifying a pocket is easy.
 
I have a Kramer leather pocket holster for my Centennial model 40. It has a square shape piece of plastic on the outside and prints as a billfold. In jeans it has always stays inside the pocket. In slacks it has at times fell out of the pocket onto the ground when drawing rather quickly, it never has come out with the revolver still in place.
 
The closest I ever came to a accident was once at shift change I was to hand off my revolver to the guard releaving me. I had been around guns forever and was probley over 30 years on the job when this happened. I probley was tired from a lot of OT, still, there was about 6 or 7 of us in crowded quarters at shift change. I idly cocked my revolver in my holster! I noticed it right away before anyone else did. I stepped out to get rid of my chew and fixed the matter. I never could explain the incident to myself. I will say I started out with single action revolvers when I was a kid yet I still shoot my double action revolvers single action probley 95% of the time except when I used to have to requalify every six months.
As far as pocket holsters go it sounds like all of us that do pack a gun in the pocket really should take a honest look at how it really is working for us and go with what works the best for us. I still must say the gun and both holsters I have come out of the pocket together and both hands then must be used together with some too much effort to separate them. At this point I STILL dont trust them. I will give it a fair practice trial.
Here is my other set up.
 
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A pocket holster serves several functions - (1) Conceal the outline of the firearm, (2) Keep the firearm properly oriented, muzzle down, and (3) Cover the trigger to help prevent accidental discharge.

I have used three models, a DeSantis Nemesis, Galco leather (horsehide) and custom holster by Ryan Grizzle. All work well as described in the first paragraph.

The Nemesis is a little bulky, with a folded design, and has little or no retention capability. The outer surface is sticky, the inner a nylon tricot. It always stays in the pocket, but the gun can fall out if you slouch or fall.

The Galco well made, but on the large side. It conceals well due to the two piece construction and flat outline, and the leather is soft and supple. The flesh side is turned out, providing ample friction to keep the holster from being drawn out with the gun. There are also "hooks" in the top, front and aft, to catch the lip of the pocket. There is enough retention fpr safety, due to the smooth leather surface inside. If your pockets are large enough, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this holster.

The Grizzle is very well made, and about as compact as possible. The leather is flesh side out, but fairly firm. It is a loose, blocked fit very little molding or boning. (Boning looks cool, but has no place in a pocket holster.) The small size fits almost any pocket, including dress pants, other than some "euro" styled trousers. When shopping, you should be able to insert your hand to cover a wrist watch and spread your fingers naturally. The most reliable way to draw is to press the top of the gun forward, so that the front of the holster hooks on the lip of the pocket. If it comes out, be prepared to sweep it aside with your weak hand (practice, practice, practice).

When reholstering, the holster should always be withdrawn, gun inserted, and replaced in the pocket together with the gun. That is the only safe way to avoid an accidental discharge, especially with a striker fired pistol.
 
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A pocket holster serves several functions - (1) Conceal the outline of the firearm, (2) Keep the firearm properly oriented, muzzle down, and (3) Cover the trigger to help prevent accidental discharge.

(4) Keep much of the lint and other detritus that resides in pockets from fouling the action of the gun. (5) Keep the metal gun from wearing a hole in your pocket.
 
In theory the holster stays in the pocket when the gun is drawn. In practice it usually comes out with the gun and you have to deal with a holstered gun in your hand.

I have never, in over sixteen years of pocket carry, had a holster come out my pocket with the gun. It appears your mileage, etc., but it's just not ever happened for me. Nor have I ever had a gun fall out of a pocket, despite having taken a few ugly falls.

Maybe I've been uncommonly lucky, but I'm certain I'm not the only one.
 
I have two very gun savvy associates whom have shot themselves in the leg while pocket carrying, one putting the gun in the pocket, one taking it out, both under administrative conditions. Hip carry....it works.

It sounds like the guy who was reholstering was using poor technique. You should not stick the gun in your pocket and fish around until it is in the holster. You should always remove the holster from your pocket, insert the gun in the holster, and then put them both into your pocket. Even a moment of carelessness can be painful, expensive, and/or deadly. That is true for allgun handling though.
 
the mikes #3 stays in the pocket, when the J frame comes out...............
 
I have never, in over sixteen years of pocket carry, had a holster come out my pocket with the gun. It appears your mileage, etc., but it's just not ever happened for me. Nor have I ever had a gun fall out of a pocket, despite having taken a few ugly falls.

Maybe I've been uncommonly lucky, but I'm certain I'm not the only one.



I have never had that problem, either; and it won't happen with the Mika holster I use. The gun barely rubs the sides of it.

Andy
 
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