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Old 04-05-2016, 09:07 AM
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I saw this on the news this AM a company has a soon to be released - if they can get past the PC police- .380 pistol which has a folding handle which makes it resemble a cell phone and is about the same size. I think the company is called "Ideal Conceal".
If they made it in a better caliber I would want one.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:07 AM
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Article about this on FOX NEWS website this morning. Schumer is raising h**l about it, trying to get ATFE to investigate it. Firearm is not even made yet.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:29 AM
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My guess is that the ATFE will not approve it excepted under an AOW label. JMHO.
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Maybe someone should investigate Sen. Scheemer.
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Approved or not, doesn't matter to me. I don't want or need a handgun with a folding grip. There are plenty of handguns small enough for deep concealment without going to that extent.

It's just a company trying to use a gimmick to create a market for something.
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:11 AM
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What if your real cell phone rings, but you pick up the gun to answer? Could get messy.
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:14 AM
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What if your real cell phone rings, but you pick up the gun to answer? Could get messy.
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Folding stocks are out there.....I mean, like really out there.






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I saw it too on the FOX news a few minutes ago and have mixed feelings about the product. As a retired LEO I can see where it could be effectively used against law enforcement, or where LE could react when someone points something like this at them. Glad to be retired.
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Schumer banning something based on cosmetics? Never!
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:47 PM
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Article about this on FOX NEWS website this morning. Schumer is raising h**l about it, trying to get ATFE to investigate it. Firearm is not even made yet.
Are you sure it's not being made yet? I've being seeing it on
the news for at least a week. I haven't paid that much
attention to the coverage but I thought one young perp had
already been shot by the police when using one.
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Agree. Fiddling with it under stress, just to get the grip deployed, doesn't seem like a smart approach in an emergency situation. But there'll probably be people who will want it just because Schumer doesn't like it.
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:11 PM
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I'd rather my gun look like 500 S&W from the bad guy's perspective.
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When I think I have seen it all something else pops up. Larry
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Stupidest thing I've ever seen. The logic for it as described by the maker is that it allows for carry without having to disturb people who are concerned when they see a gun. The example I heard is that little Johnny sees a poorly concealed gun and says to his mom - look mom, that man has a gun. That won't happen with this cell phone looking gun. Seriously?

First, concealed should be concealed. Second, how crazy has this world become when the sight of a gun on a person is some big deal. Third, tell little Johnny about the facts of life - most people with guns as law abiding citizens and use the situation as a learning experience.

Lastly - the last thing I want is for law enforcement to have to wonder if a phone is a gun or to be fooled by some a-hole using this thing and doing harm to a LEO.
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No. Just no. Slow to deploy, and an answer to an unasked question.

God forbid some toddler should find one and...
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Not really a good idea. Some idiot will shoot them self trying to text while driving. The lawyers would love that.
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Not really a good idea. Some idiot will shoot them self trying to text while driving.
Sounds like a great idea to me. As Grannie would say "that'll stopem from sucking eggs". Larry
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My first thought was just how many times I could sucker an irritating person into answering my cell phone for me. "Just flip it open, then hit the 'push to talk' switch, Bud."

My second thought was me sitting across the room from some rookie cop who just read an intel alert about the cell phone pistols, sees me opening up my antique flip phone, and ruins my whole day.

I think some ideas are better than others.
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Old 04-09-2016, 05:45 PM
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Callahan: I know what you´re thinking: "Did he take six selfies or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I´ve kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 iPhone, the most powerful smartphone in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you´ve got to ask yourself one question: ´Do I feel lucky?´ Well, do ya, punk?
[The thief gives up trying to retrieve his shotgun; Callahan picks it up and starts to walk away.]
Thief: Hey! [Callahan turns around] I gots to know!
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Thief: Son of a *****!
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Now that's funny.
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Don't have much use for gimmick guns, but anything that drives the Left as apoplectic as this has is OK with me.
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My back pocket wallet holsters are more useful and not near as hoplophobic . . .
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Default But should it be illegal?
There is something on the books about not having guns that resemble pens, but can it be expanded to include other items?
There are already guns that fold up, derringers, etc.

I don't care for this. I have no use for it. But I don't think it should be illegal.
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Seems to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

A few cases of mistaken identity....a cell phone for a gun...and there's another excuse to get "ban happy". Don't we have enough to worry about? Now every new tech gizmo out there may be a loaded weapon?

I guess guns have been disguised as other everyday objects before....just seems like an unwise product. Hopefully the free market will make quick work of it....
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Pro-gun people throwing a gun overboard based on appearance?

I'll bet if I said, "I'm a deer hunter. You only need a deer rifle. Nobody needs an AR....", people would go ballistic about their rights, etc.
Why should this gun not have the same pro-gun support?
Don't like it? Fine. Don't buy one.

But don't fall into the trap of throwing your fellow pro-gun people overboard.
The anti's love it. Divide and conquer.
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constructing a pistol to look like a cell phone provides concealment in plain sight but the basic issue with CC is the speed of deployment in that moment when S*** hits the fan.

Cute idea but for me personally, having a CC, I will continue to carry my model 39 under the shirt which is still slower than deployment from the old duty holster.
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Useless unless it has an .mp3 player. 16GB preferably.
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