Ruger 1911 Model 6722 Lt Wt Cmdr 9mm

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I see that Ruger came out with a 1911 9mm Lightweight
Commander.

Interesting concept. Should prove interesting to the gun
market.

Reading through the "Spec Sheet", I read that the frame
is made with Aluminum. I wonder how well that will
wear?

I have the Full size 1911 45ACP and really like it. So
this new 1911 9mm should be good also. I will have
to an eye out for one at the Local Gun Shops.

I all so see there are reviews on Gunblast and Real Guns.
 
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That was a concern with the Colt LWC as well, turned out not to be a problem. However if you ever want to customize it concerning slide to frame fit that could be a problem. That is not a real problem as most accuracy work concerns the barrel and bushing fit to the slide, slide to frame fit is not all that important. Most pistol smiths do not want to work with the aluminum frame. I would rest easy with the stock Ruger.
 
The Norseman said:
I see that Ruger came out with a 1911 9mm Lightweight
Commander.

Interesting concept. Should prove interesting to the gun
market.

Reading through the "Spec Sheet", I read that the frame
is made with Aluminum. I wonder how well that will
wear?
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There isn't anything new about aluminun-framed 1911s or Commander-size 1911s.

I'm of two minds about it. As something of a purist when it comes to 1911s, I see the pistol as a combination of steel and wood, or steel and ivory. No alloy frame, no MIM parts. No fancy aftermarket doodads. And especially no alloy frames on a Commander-size pistol.

On the other hand, my EDC is a polymer-frame .45acp. So I have a foot in both worlds. I've become proficient enough with the polymer pistol that it'd probably take me a while to regain that same level of proficiency with a steel frame. I don't know that because I haven't tried it...just what I think.
 
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As long as it has a ramped barrel which I think it does. I have seen some lightweight 1911's without a ramped barrel and I wouldn't buy them.

A 9MM 1911 is a lot of fun. Especially in a government model. Virtually no recoil. I wouldn't think a commander model would be too bad either.

I've shot 1911's in several calibers other than 45 ACP such as 38 Super, 9x21, 9x23, 400 Corbon, 40 S&W, 10MM and 22LR. The 9MM remains one of my favorites. Especially in 2011 frames.
 
The Norseman said:
....I read that the frame
is made with Aluminum. I wonder how well that will wear?...
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I had a .45 Colt Double Eagle Officers Lightweight, which was their double action version of the 1911.

Never had a problem with it, other than slow recovery. (The bore axis was higher above your hand than a 1911, so it added a bit of recoil torque.)

As long as the frame is properly built and anodized properly (which increases surface hardness), and if it has a ramped barrel, I don't see any issue. The 9mm certainly is not going to stress it as much as a 45 ACP, and Colt made 45 ACP lightweight Commanders have been in service for quite some time.

I think a lightweight Commander in 9mm would be a nice companion to a full size, all steel 1911 in 45 ACP.
 
Where have you people been? The original Colt Commander was an aluminum framed 9mm waaaayyy back 1949, no issues in 75+ years without a ramped barrel, they're still making them the same way. Ruger does not use a ramped barrel, they put a titanium feed ramp insert in the frame.

And, I'd love to now which pistolsmiths have issues working with aluminum framed 1911s. Heck, just this week I sent my new lightweight Colt Wiley Clapp Commander off to David Clevinger for a bunch of work, the aluminum frame never came up at all.
 
The Norseman said:
Reading through the "Spec Sheet", I read that the frame
is made with Aluminum. I wonder how well that will
wear?
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Why would it wear any worse than the aluminum frames of any other Commander models. Arguably, the Ruger will wear better with its titanium insert in the frame to prevent it from getting chewed up with rounds other than FMJ go up the feed ramp.

The original Commander from Colt was made with an aluminum frame, and surface treatment and alloys have no doubt been improved since 1950, when Colt put its Commander in production.
 
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WC145 said:
Where have you people been? The original Colt Commander was an aluminum framed 9mm waaaayyy back 1949, no issues in 75+ years without a ramped barrel, they're still making them the same way. Ruger does not use a ramped barrel, they put a titanium feed ramp insert in the frame.

And, I'd love to now which pistolsmiths have issues working with aluminum framed 1911s. Heck, just this week I sent my new lightweight Colt Wiley Clapp Commander off to David Clevinger for a bunch of work, the aluminum frame never came up at all.
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I had assumed, given Ruger's preference for scale of economy, that they would have used a feedramp integral with the barrel. This article confirms they are using a titanium insert.
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/7/27/ruger-sr1911-lightweight-commander-pistol/

As far as aluminum feedramps go, if I was only shooting blunt bullets like round nose FMJ I wouldn't care. Have seen cosmetic wear, but have to admit have never seen one that wore through the anodizing or gouged it. Still, I prefer a harder feedramp.

Ruger apparently believes a harder feedramp is worth the added manufacturing cost.
 
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My Super 38 LW Commander was purchased by a LEO in 1951. I acquired it in 1991 and have put thousands of trouble free rounds through it.

Regards,
Bruce
 
Does anyone have experience with the S&W Scandium 1911s? I wonder how they compare with the new Ruger and the Colts, etc. I would thing that the lightweight commander models would be popular choices as carry guns.
 
I just acquired a Ruger LW CMD in 9mm today. It has a barrel with integral feed ramp. The LW CMD in .45 ACP has the titanium insert in the ramp.
 
WC145 said:
Where have you people been? The original Colt Commander was an aluminum framed 9mm waaaayyy back 1949, no issues in 75+ years without a ramped barrel, they're still making them the same way. Ruger does not use a ramped barrel, they put a titanium feed ramp insert in the frame.

And, I'd love to now which pistolsmiths have issues working with aluminum framed 1911s. Heck, just this week I sent my new lightweight Colt Wiley Clapp Commander off to David Clevinger for a bunch of work, the aluminum frame never came up at all.
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There's a lot of work you can do that does not involve any machine work to the frame itself.The modern method of having a tight frame to slide fit to is a nice thing but fitting an aluminum frame to a steel slide is a touchy thing to do after it's manufactured. Check out the recent article in Guns and ammo about Night Hawk Customs new Hi Power. They addressed a few concerns about a possible light weight aluminum frame Hi Power.
 
LEO918 said:
I just acquired a Ruger LW CMD in 9mm today. It has a barrel with integral feed ramp. The LW CMD in .45 ACP has the titanium insert in the ramp.
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So Ruger did go to an integral feed ramp on the 9mm. Nice. All I found was the .45 review showing the feed ramp. I wonder if Ruger was having problems with wide mouth .45 hollow points like the CCI "Flying Ashtray"?
 
Ruger 1911 in 9mm

Thank you all for your replies. I'm always learning
something here.

LEO918 - Please post a review of your Ruger 1911
9mm when you get a chance. You being in Arizona I
suspect that area of the country will receive them
first.

We were just in Prescott Valley visiting. Went to the
usual Local Gun shops, but of course didn't see any
thing.

Thank you.
 
I just received a pair of carbon fiber grips in the mail today, as I am not a fan of rubber grips.
I took it down and cleaned the out factory oil and re-assembled with my own CLP.
No surprises, seems to be a very well made entry level 1911.
Yes Arizona seems to get the Rugers first. Mine was purchased in Kingman, AZ.
 
If I were looking for a Commander sized 9MM I would not hesitate to buy the Ruger because of the alloy frame. If the Ruger has a hard metal insert frame feed ramp or ramped barrel, better yet.

My early '80s Colt 45 ACP Commander frame did crack after moderate use. I have to believe frame design and the aluminum alloy used in current frames must have improved in the last 35 years and I would not be overly concerned about the alloy frame. Also, the recoil impulse of the hottest 9MM +P+ is less than standard 45 ACP ball. It is recoil, not pressure, that beats up semi-auto pistols. I prefer steel frames, but the weight reduction with alloy frames is substantial. Years ago, I started carrying the Commander rather than a Government or Gold Cup, not due to any size reduction, but just because of the lighter weight.
 
My LGS received their first of the new Ruger Commanders on Friday. Several of us examined the pistol and we all noticed the same thing, the slide to frame rail fit was quite loose. Loose enough, in fact to allow a bit of the old GI 45 rattle. A second example was the same.
 
Excuse me, but I find the excitement over 9mm confusing. I must say that I would prefer a .45 ACP in any 1911 variant over 9mm any day.....But,.....that's just me........
 
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