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I don't think anyone has posted a picture of a Romanian .22 training rifle yet, synthetic sling and all. No scope on it at the moment...
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I don't think anyone has posted a picture of a Romanian .22 training rifle yet, synthetic sling and all. No scope on it at the moment...
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That's another unusual one from behind the "Iron Curtain"!! I am amazed at the response to this thread, and the variety of firearms that we have seen, of all vintages and calibers.
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I've been trying to find time to post a few more "ComBlock" guns. To go with the four Makarovs that I have already shown, here are three more that use the same cartridge. Even those allied countries who chose not to use the Makarov design fielded handguns chambered for the same round.
Polish P 64
Hungarian PA 63
Czechoslavian CZ 82
These each come with distinctive holsters, which also differ from the standardized Makarov holster. I don't know about today, but back about 2004, I was crossing the border between Austria and Hungary on a bus, and the border gaurds who came aboard the bus were wearing the same holsters and carrying the same PA 63 as shown above.
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Bulgy AK74. My hog killing gun.
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Polish WZ-48 .22 Training rifle. Loosley mimics the Mosin Nagant M38 but with a 1920 style Mauser action.
Very soft shooting, which at over 8 pounds it should be, and has surprising accuracy. The rear sight is graduated in 5M increments from 25M out to 100M.
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Nice AK-74. I think that the Bulgarians came about the closest to duplicating the original Russian designs, whether it be Makarovs or Kalashnikovs. They produce a quality product, and one that we have been able to import in reasonable quantities, without too much "bureaucratic modification".
That is a beauty, and thanks for sharing it with us here.
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Polish WZ-48 .22 Training rifle. Loosley mimics the Mosin Nagant M38 but with a 1920 style Mauser action.
Very soft shooting, which at over 8 pounds it should be, and has surprising accuracy. The rear sight is graduated in 5M increments from 25M out to 100M.
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Thanks for sharing your really nice Polish WZ-48. That is one sweet looking rifle!! That's another that I can't recall seeing. There was plenty of innovation going on in the old Warsaw Pact countries.
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Oh Les, what a great post subject matter you have started sir. I'm away from the home front but later I will post some pictures of some Cold War blasters that I picked up along the way. Since the prices, in days gone by, were cheap on most Cold War surplus arms, I was able to indulge myself somewhat with these listed Communist blasters;
(2) Tokarevs (1-Chinese & 1-Rumanian)
(8) Nagant Revolvers (different time periods)
(1) Chinese Mosin-Nagant Carbine
(1) Russian Mosin-Nagant 91/30
In the late 80's, one could get a very good plus Mosin-Nagant Czarist Rifle for $29.95 from CAI. I bought many and allowed most to get away through trades later on. Will post pictures later. Thanks for a great original post Les!
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Neat stuff here gents.
Here is my Tiger which has been updated with SVD furniture and a SVD Flashider/Front Sight:
SBR Krink on a Krebs Custom:
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That's a really nice FEG, they make a very nice clone of the HP, and that makes them popular. They are very well made. Hungarians have a very highly developed manufacturing sector. When I was in Hungary a little over ten years ago, I visited the city where my "German" Audi automobile, a "TT" was manufactured. Most owners just assume that the audio are all made in Germany, but mine was made in a town in Hungary near the border with Austria. Can't recall the name right now, though.
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Neat stuff here gents.
Here is my Tiger which has been updated with SVD furniture and a SVD Flashider/Front Sight:
SBR Krink on a Krebs Custom:
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Now those are just outstanding!!! All three are just really cool examples of ComBlock firearms. I once passed on an original Russian Tigr, and its Parent rifle back in the 80s, if I remember correctly, at the Pittsburgh gun show. (PGCA). They were not import marked, and I think that they may Hanover come in from a Canadian vendor that used to be there. If only we could go back in time!!!
I do still have a Bulgarian "Krinkov" kit from before they made them destroy the barrels. I sort of have it in the back of my mind to have it built as an SBR project gun one of these days. Yours is beautiful!!!
Thanks for sharing with us,
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I'll join in.
This M44 has been in my life since maybe 2007, it and a few hundred rounds of ammo (split a spam can and a vertical silver tin can with a friend) ran me $150 back them.
I traded AR15 rifles at different times for these Norinco AKs: a 20" NHM91 (right) and a 16" MAK90 (left). I got the better value side of both trades.
This SKS-M also recently came into my life for less than half of what they are known to sell for on the Files:
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I have a couple, but no pics. First is an 1896 manufactured Mosin 91, Finnish capture. SA marked, Finnish stock, with the distinctive sling swivels and all. Have not shot it yet.
Second is a 1951 Russian SKS. Likely arsenal rebuilt, but has no rebuild markings. Condition is wayyy to good to be original. Shoots great.
I really like the Mosin. Made for a Czar, taken by the commies, captured by the Finns, and then used to shoot the commies. A well rounded gun. As it happens both were made at Tula Arsenal
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Among the members there is quite an impressive showing of Com-Bloc firepower!
I can contribute the SVT40 (aka Tokarev). This one dates to first year of production, 1940.
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And now for something completely different.
A Russian TOZ-66, made in Tula.
20 in. barrels SXS 12 ga. that throws a tighter pattern
than my Model 12 Trap gun.
And built like a tank.
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Oh Les, what a great post subject matter you have started sir. I'm away from the home front but later I will post some pictures of some Cold War blasters that I picked up along the way. Since the prices, in days gone by, were cheap on most Cold War surplus arms, I was able to indulge myself somewhat with these listed Communist blasters;
(2) Tokarevs (1-Chinese & 1-Rumanian)
(8) Nagant Revolvers (different time periods)
(1) Chinese Mosin-Nagant Carbine
(1) Russian Mosin-Nagant 91/30
In the late 80's, one could get a very good plus Mosin-Nagant Czarist Rifle for $29.95 from CAI. I bought many and allowed most to get away through trades later on. Will post pictures later. Thanks for a great original post Les!
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I'm looking forward to seeing some of your treasures! I hope that you are enjoying one of your well deserved holidays, now that you have retired! Have a good time, and let us know when you are back on the forum again.
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I'll join in.
This M44 has been in my life since maybe 2007, it and a few hundred rounds of ammo (split a spam can and a vertical silver tin can with a friend) ran me $150 back them.
I traded AR15 rifles at different times for these Norinco AKs: a 20" NHM91 (right) and a 16" MAK90 (left). I got the better value side of both trades.
This SKS-M also recently came into my life for less than half of what they are known to sell for on the Files:
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Three great treasures! Those rifles represent the cream of the communist crop where the development of the modern battle rifle evolved. From the bolt action days, through an early semi-auto rifle, through the more modern Kalashnikov based designs. Cold War treasures indeed!!
Thanks for sharing with us!
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Yes, I have a few -
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M57 Yugoslav Tokarev:
M95 Nagant revolver:
Mosin-Nagant sniper model:
Russian "as issued" Makarov:
Norinco pre-ban AK-47
Russian SKS-45:
Mosin-Nagant standard infantry model (1939):
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I have a couple, but no pics. First is an 1896 manufactured Mosin 91, Finnish capture. SA marked, Finnish stock, with the distinctive sling swivels and all. Have not shot it yet.
Second is a 1951 Russian SKS. Likely arsenal rebuilt, but has no rebuild markings. Condition is wayyy to good to be original. Shoots great.
I really like the Mosin. Made for a Czar, taken by the commies, captured by the Finns, and then used to shoot the commies. A well rounded gun. As it happens both were made at Tula Arsenal
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Thanks for dropping by. Those sound like great guns. I have a Russian SKS also, but have no idea whether it was arsenal rebuilt or not. Haven't posted it yet, but will soon. If you get any pictures of your treasures, please post them!!
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Among the members there is quite an impressive showing of Com-Bloc firepower!
I can contribute the SVT40 (aka Tokarev). This one dates to first year of production, 1940.
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That is a great looking SVT40. I know that they all have the mounting grooves for the scope mount, but I have seen very few with the mount and scope in place. Congratulations. I have an SVT, but I could never afford the mount. I don't know about now, but the scopes were fairly affordable, and you could find them, but the mounts were going for more than the rifle!!!
Nice looking package. Thanks for sharing with us.
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Yes, I have a few -
John
M57 Yugoslav Tokarev:
M95 Nagant revolver:
Mosin-Nagant sniper model:
Russian "as issued" Makarov:
Norinco pre-ban AK-47
Russian SKS-45:
Mosin-Nagant standard infantry model (1939):
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Wow!! Really nice condition ComBlock guns, but the photography is really stunning. I know that you combine gun expertise with photography, but those photos are over the top!! I notice that the Yugoslav Tokarev does not appear to have one of those retrofitted safeties installed. That is a real gem. What a great collection of some of the finest Communist era firearms I have seen.
Just noticed that your Makarov seems to be the same year of production as mine, shown in post number 1 on this thread, 1987.
Thanks for sharing with us...
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Well, I've only posted a few guns on this thread so far, thought I'd throw out another. This is a Finnish Mosin-Nagant Model 1939 circa 1970.
Here is a closeup of the receiver.
The receiver and bolt and trigger mechanism are probably remanufactured from a captured Russian rifle. But the barrel and stock and other hardware are Finnish manufacture.
Here is a little history of the. Mosin:
The Mosin-Nagant was developed by Capt. Sergi Ivanovich Moisin of the Russian Army with assistance from Leon Nagant, a Belgian arms designer. The rifle was adopted by Russia in 1891, and was the country’s first small bore, smokeless-powder military rifle.[1] The cartridge was developed in the 1890’s, and is still in use in Russian weapons today. The reason is that it is still a powerful, extremely effective cartridge. The Finns not only used Mosins captured in combat, but began to manufacture their own. This example was made in 1970, one of the last to be turned out. An ‘SA’ in a rectangle is the Finnish proof mark. This stands for Suomen Armeija, or ‘Finnish Army’[2]. This rifle appears to be in new condition, and was probably unfired before I acquired it.
[1] Bruce N. Canfield “Ugly Duckling: Moisin-Nagant in U.S. Service” American Rifleman, Volume 156, No. 7, July 2008 p.52
[2] Terence W. Lapin, The Mosin-Nagant Rifle, 3rd ed. (Tustin: North Cape Publications, 2003), p.120"f
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And now for something completely different.
A Russian TOZ-66, made in Tula.
20 in. barrels SXS 12 ga. that throws a tighter pattern
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And built like a tank.
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Well, lrb1200, you're right: that is something completely different from what we've been seeing! Nice looking shotgun, and those folks in Tula know a thing or two about making nice, serviceable guns. Thanks for sharing with us.
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Just thought that I would put in a link to a thread by OLDSTER, focusing on the Chinese Tokarev pistols. He started this thread after reading the article in the February 2017 issue of "American Rifleman".
http://smith-wessonforum.com/firearm...-rifleman.html
We have had some good discussions, which at this time are still ongoing. Please check out OLDSTER's thread!
While I'm at it, here are the Tokarevs that I posted on that thread:
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Here is my Chinese manufactured Tokarev, a "Bring Back" from the Vietnam War:
And here are the markings on the top of the slide:
Here is a shot of my Russian "Bring Back":
Here is an import marked Romanian, with the mandated, jury rigged "safety":
Here is my similarly mutilated Polish Tokarev:
Here's the last one....a Yougoslav Model 57:
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