Sig P365 in hand with comparisons Update with Range Time

Irn-Bru · Mar 19, 2018

Picked up the P365 last Friday, and just thought I'd share some comparisons to other small carry guns. I included the Kahr PM9, Glock 26 and S&W Shield.

Firstly I haven't shot the P365 yet, haven't had a chance to make it to the range yet. Hopefully sometime this week I'll get a few hundred rounds through it. Hoping if all things go well and I like the way it shoots, it will be my new carry piece. I stripped it, lubed it and it feels good in my hand. What stands out for me so far, is how good the trigger is. Beats these hands down in the trigger department.

As you can see from the selection, I'm not a "fan boy" for any brand. If I like the gun and it's reliable, I don't care who's names on it. I honestly wouldn't have bought the Sig if it hadn't been for the capacity. Being able to carry 10+1 or 12+1 is a HUGE advantage over smaller single stack guns. It's not the smallest, the PM9 is still a hair smaller and lighter, but your talking the tiniest of tiny margins.

washerman · Mar 20, 2018

is the sig a single action striker fired pistol? lighter pull than say a ruger LC9s?

nachogrande · Mar 20, 2018

IT STIRS MY INTEREST FOR SURE.

Doubt I'll be running out to sell/trade my Sig stainless P239 40 over it, but that's an apple to oranges comparison. IF TAKING REQUESTS, IF ABLE, how about a pic next to a 239 & J frame? Wt's fully loaded would be more useful/realistic, IMO. I don't carry them with no/empty mags. Nice helpful thread though.

jsfricks · Mar 20, 2018

The new American Rifleman has a good article on the Sig P365 and some good comparisons with others in its class. One thing I’m liking is that a 12 round mag is available and still keeps it in a compact package.

American Rifleman | Tested: SIG Sauer P365 Pistol

yeti · Mar 20, 2018

I have not even had a chance to hold a P365 yet, but I am very intrigued. Thanks for the report, Irn.
Would be interested to hear more after you get out to the range and compare it further.

Irn-Bru · Mar 20, 2018

I'll update this thread later with the weight fully loaded and some pics next to a J Frame. Also when I get to the range I'll take some pictures and try a few different kinds of ammo. I usually carry HST's so will definitely be running the 124 gr and 147 gr.

No Quarter · Mar 20, 2018

Here are a few pics with a Bodyguard 380 and a 649 .38. I have over 450 rounds through this little Sig with no problems at all. Amazingly size efficient little gun. The 12 rounders really do not add much appreciable length at all. Easy to carry and fun to shoot.

You can see the added length with the 12 round vs. the 10 round is no big deal at all in the pictures with the 649.

jhnttrpp · Mar 20, 2018

If reliable, this will be hard to resist. I carry a Model 60 no dash right now, but ten or twelve rounds vs 5 is remarkable in the same relative size.

No Quarter · Mar 20, 2018

Other than the inherent ease of carry of a J frame due to its shape, the P365 is really as easy to toss in a pocket. I carried mine on Saturday in an Uncle Mike pocket holster. No issues at all.

The 649 in my pictures above is a favorite of mine and I do still carry it regularly and shoot it often. It usually lives in an Ankle holster when I am in business attire and I pocket carry the little Bodyguard 380. If I am in jeans and a vest or untucked shirt, the P365 is my go to gun as it has proven itself reliable and accurate.

Makes me question why I still own a Glock 26, a Glock 43 or even a Glock 19 to tell you the truth. I find the little Sig to be quite good at the range. Something about the undercut of the trigger guard let's me get a really good grip on the gun. It just feels right and points well.

Mine is the updated version with the Xray sights by the way. I took it straight from the shop when I bought it to the range. No cleaning, no extra lube. I just checked it to see if the barrel was free of obstruction and let 'er rip for several hundred rounds of mixed ammo. I have an ammo can full of all types of ammo from 115 grain aluminum cases to +p+ hollowpoints. I loaded the mags with mixed ammo and it never had a problem.

It has eaten 100 rounds of Federal 124 gr HST as well and it is still flawless.

I hope it stays that way!

NQ

gnystrom · Mar 21, 2018

I can offer some help as I got mine a few days ago. As the past owner of a Shield which I spent a good deal of $$ (sights, trigger, grip tape,etc.) trying to make it the perfect small carry gun, I gave up, sold it, and kept the PM9 as it was much smaller and I actually shot it better.

On the initial run Sig found some minor bugs and they were simple fixes and are in the marketplace right now.
The only small current 9mm semi that comes close in size is the Kahr PM9. Yes, there are others but I want current production from a recognized manufacturer. I threw in a pic next to my little LCP but that is a .380 BUG.

The Sig P365 fits perfectly in every one of my PM9 holsters, even the moulded kydex versions as long as it has an open bottom as the P365 is just a bit longer than the PM9.

The Sig has a more rounded grip with nicer stippling than either the Shield or PM9. I experienced no "Glock knuckle" shooting it two hand or offhand, in fact I enjoyed shooting this gun strong and weak hand only. Using a two hand hold, I put the first mag out of the P365 in the black of a standard bullseye target at 30'.
I now have about 100 handloads through the Sig with no problems. Warning, the SIG mags are just under $50/ea. and I probably will not buy the 12 rounder because it's just longer and then we get into other guns that will fill the bill.

In quest for a small semi in a solid caliber that would hold enough rounds to make me comfortable when I was with my family, after further testing, this may be exactly what I was searching for.
Sorry for the long post.

SATX · Mar 21, 2018

I see the 10 round mag is about the same size as the Shield 7 round mag. I'm guessing the 12 round mag will be the size as the Shield 8 round mag?

I really don't care for the shorter mags for carry. They're ok for the range but in a SHTF situation, I want a full grip on the pistol.

Triggernosis · Mar 21, 2018

Here's a holster I just finished for the P365.

tlawler · Mar 21, 2018

Triggernosis said:
Here's a holster I just finished for the P365.

Very nice looking holster. I have to admit I was intrigued by the 365 when I read the article in AR. Not a big fan of polymer SF pistols, but 10 rounds of parabellum with the shorter mag ain’t nothing to shake a stick at. I might have to “get one for the wife”

Irn-Bru · Mar 21, 2018

What's so great about this gun, is what it will do going forward. You know Glock, HK, S&W and the rest will be trying to figure out how to do the same thing. The size and capacity is just amazing for something this small.

jhnttrpp · Mar 21, 2018

Triggernosis said:
Here's a holster I just finished for the P365.

Could you explain the brown piece of leather stitched to the outside of your holster. Or is it the inside.

nachogrande · Mar 23, 2018

MORE PIC REQUESTS

Been watching several U-tube vids on this gun. It kinda seems like 2 opposing sides with the truth somewhere in the middle. An area I haven't seen/heard much on, is the slide & frame rails: metal to metal, metal to plastic, full length or partial? When new I thought the PM9 was a game changer, & sold it off cuz I felt the rails were a weak spot & it wouldn't hold up to a high round count. Want it small & light, expect trade offs. "small/light" S/D gun that jams after 1,000+ rounds WITHOUT as much as a brush out, Gimme a break.

BE Mike · Mar 23, 2018

I've been very happy with my Kahr CM9 with Crimson Trace laser. If the Sig P365 trigger is better and they come out with a good CT laser, the extra capacity might tip the scale for a EDC gun for me. It took a while for me to go from a S&W 642 to the Kahr, so the process will be slow. I'm way past the point of being prejudice against the top brand plastic pistols. They are ugly, but seem to hold up as well as any metal pistols.

tlawler · Mar 23, 2018

What’s the street price on the P365 right now? The MSRP in American Rifleman is $600, but a quick check of GB shows some price gouging going on. I know the price should drop once they start getting into circulation.

gnystrom · Mar 23, 2018

Piecing the introduction of the P365 together and listening to people that actually were in on very early production, I know the gun was extensively tested by Sig with positive results. The first production models hit the streets and there were some issues on some guns with night sights, the gun going into full battery every time, and slight peening on the back of the barrel hood. Two of these issues seem to be inter-related.

SIG immediately halted production and I suspect they changed the wt. of the recoil spring assembly which resolved the slide damage, plus they cut a couple of tiny notches in the barrel hood which eliminates the possibility of peening. The sight problem turned out to be a great one for many of us as they switched over to their their X-ray sights which puts a big green ball in the front sight. Perfect for SD use.
Did Sig hurry out with this gun? Not my call but those who were in on the design from the start will tell you the exact opposite.
When you look at YouTube video reviews for this gun I would disregard everything that is over one month old. Your information will be a far more accurate description of the performance of this little powerhouse.

To answer the above posters street question, I ordered mine about 6 weeks ago from my LGS at $515. Brownells had a list going at about $500. Just my opinion, but if this gun continues to get positive raves, the price could actually rise slightly more toward the $600 list price and it may take a while for it to recede back to the $475-$500 level.

Lee in Quartzsite · Mar 23, 2018

I just got home from my LGS. Both my wife and I ordered a P-365...got put on their waiting list. They had one on display for $550 that we both got to handle. We are going to trade our 12 year old M&P 9 Compacts on this new Sig. They offered us $250 each on trade-in for the M&P's. I might also trade my Ruger LC9s because I probably won't carry it much after seeing this new gun. The trigger on the 365 is so smooth with a great reset, and the included night sights are a nice extra touch. With the 12 round magazine it has the same capacity as the M&P compact in a much smaller package.

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