Sig P365 at the 7,500 round mark

[Onomea]

...Instead of just throwing the mag in and just tapping it from the bottom, put it in and use your middle finger and thumb to "squeeze" the mag into place...

Chief, so is your thumb on the bottom of the magazine and your middle finger on top of the slide when squeezing?

Another vote for the Houge grip sleeve, the Uplula mag loader, and the Magguts conversion kits...

Iggy, that you recommend the Magguts conversion kit is reassuring. I've been reading up on them and while most folks seem to like them, some question their reliability, especially over time.

I picked mine up today. 365X which is the standard bbl with the XL grip frame. Feels pretty good in my large hand, but I've also ordered a Wilson Combat grip frame based on my reading.

And an Uplula.

Man, this thing is compact!

Now to line up some professional instruction as I have no experience whatsoever with carrying a semi (and very little with even shooting them).

The adventure begins!

 

[ladder13]

A little gun that thinks it’s a large gun.

 

[chief38]

Chief, so is your thumb on the bottom of the magazine and your middle finger on top of the slide when squeezing?


Iggy, that you recommend the Magguts conversion kit is reassuring. I've been reading up on them and while most folks seem to like them, some question their reliability, especially over time.

I picked mine up today. 365X which is the standard bbl with the XL grip frame. Feels pretty good in my large hand, but I've also ordered a Wilson Combat grip frame based on my reading.

And an Uplula.

Man, this thing is compact!

Now to line up some professional instruction as I have no experience whatsoever with carrying a semi (and very little with even shooting them).

The adventure begins!

I prefer my thumb to be over top of the slide and my two middle fingers on the magazine base. Simply squeeze.

 

[chief38]

Chief, so is your thumb on the bottom of the magazine and your middle finger on top of the slide when squeezing?


Iggy, that you recommend the Magguts conversion kit is reassuring. I've been reading up on them and while most folks seem to like them, some question their reliability, especially over time.

I picked mine up today. 365X which is the standard bbl with the XL grip frame. Feels pretty good in my large hand, but I've also ordered a Wilson Combat grip frame based on my reading.

And an Uplula.

Man, this thing is compact!

Now to line up some professional instruction as I have no experience whatsoever with carrying a semi (and very little with even shooting them).

The adventure begins!

Congrats!! Keep a firm grip too. Just keep in mind of you ever want to turn it into a really small pocket pistol (original Micro size), you can just swap out the grip-frame. They are pretty cheap these days.

 

[Marshal Tom]

I teach and have all sorts of semi autos to try. I have a 365 X Macro that I love. it's a little larger than the small ones but it has a 17rd. capacity and shoots like a full size pistol. Mine has the built in comp and it really works. I own several striker fired pistols and this one is one of the best.

 

[Onomea]

Finally got to the range with my new P365X yesterday:





I hired an instructor I have used before for training with my revolvers. One hour.

We got off to an auspicious start with my having difficulty holstering the weapon and my instructor pointing out that I had the holster on upside down. This was followed by me fooling around with the uplula to load five rounds in my two 12-round mags. First time to try the uplula. (My theory being begin my intro to semi autos with no bad habits to unlearn.) Thought I had finally figured it out. Mags loaded 5x2. Drew, loaded, ready position, "up!", and..... something wrong.. Unloaded and my instructor looked at the mag, observing I had loaded the rounds in backwards...

What next?!

Well, it got better after that. We were practicing drills, drawing and firing two, back in the holster, repeat, etc. Moved to five at a go. Tap and rack. 10 rounds. Etc. This was at 21 feet, on an eight inch circle. I was just as accurate as I am with a 4" revolver, meaning that I keep my rounds inside the circle. Not bullseye by any means, but acceptable for SD.

I was trying to adapt to his teaching me a semi auto grip, the two thumbs forward, right on left. Felt weird as hell...

Anyway, while it does not feel natural yet, the semi, a good first session from my perspective.

Today, thinking on it, I don't think that's the right grip for me, especially on a gun this small with hands as large as mine:





Above, before my first training session, my first firing of the gun, I installed the Wilson Combat grip module. It is measurably and tactilely larger than the XL grip. Very aggressive, sharp, stippling though. Easy to dial back with some sandpaper, which I did, for those of us erstwhile paper pushers with soft hands. 400 grit, I think it was.

Sent him an email today, the instructor, and told him I thought better I stick with my revolver grip, thumb down and left hand thumb on right hand thumbnail. Just feels more natural, and a stronger, more secure grip.

He said that'd be fine, that some guys just do it that way. Old school. Reinforced keeping the thumbs bent, and clamping down for stability.

I have also found reassembly frustrating. Getting the takedown lever, slide release, and manual safety to cooperate. Spent some time on YouTube figgering that out.

I am gettin' there with this little guy.

Have ordered an extended mag release for an easier release, and think I will also go for an extended safety. The pistol is tiny in my large hands, and hard to manipulate the controls. But... for me anyway, meaning I am no bullseye shooter, I shoot it well...

Will report in again as I gain more handling confidence.

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LVSteve:

Base of my palm to top of my middle finger is 8". Maybe a tad more.

 

[Mark8]

All manufacturers are doing today is taking bits and pieces of what's already been done, are packaging it up, and selling it as the newest, latest, and greatest.

Laugo Arms just raised an eyebrow.

 

[LVSteve]

Finally got to the range with my new P365X yesterday:

I hired an instructor I have used before for training with my revolvers. One hour.

...

I was trying to adapt to his teaching me a semi auto grip, the two thumbs forward, right on left. Felt weird as hell...

Anyway, while it does not feel natural yet, the semi, a good first session from my perspective.

Today, thinking on it, I don't think that's the right grip for me, especially on a gun this small with hands as large as mine:





....

Sent him an email today, the instructor, and told him I thought better I stick with my revolver grip, thumb down and left hand thumb on right hand thumbnail. Just feels more natural, and a stronger, more secure grip.

He said that'd be fine, that some guys just do it that way. Old school. Reinforced keeping the thumbs bent, and clamping down for stability.


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LVSteve:

Base of my palm to top of my middle finger is 8". Maybe a tad more.

You have spoken against the thumbs forward (AKA IPSC) grip! Expect torches, pitchforks and a tar boiler outside your house this evening.

Seriously, the guys at Front Site teach the crush grip that you are more comfortable with because it works with any gun and is better for those with limited grip strength.

 

[Onomea]

...the guys at Front Site teach the crush grip that you are more comfortable with because it works with any gun and is better for those with limited grip strength.

Good to know. I find in my 70s my grip strength is not what it was. (Hmm. Actually, I pretty much find that all of me is not what it was, unfortunately...) I also fundamentally don't like the idea of different hand grips for different guns, especially if my P365 becomes my EDC and is the only semi auto I am shooting.

 

[BC38]

We got off to an auspicious start with my having difficulty holstering the weapon and my instructor pointing out that I had the holster on upside down. This was followed by me fooling around with the uplula to load five rounds in my two 12-round mags. First time to try the uplula. (My theory being begin my intro to semi autos with no bad habits to unlearn.) Thought I had finally figured it out. Mags loaded 5x2. Drew, loaded, ready position, "up!", and..... something wrong.. Unloaded and my instructor looked at the mag, observing I had loaded the rounds in backwards...

LOL holster upside down AND rounds in the magazine backwards? Auspicious start indeed!

Thanks for the chuckle!

 

[Krogen]

LOL holster upside down AND rounds in the magazine backwards? Auspicious start indeed!

Thanks for the chuckle!

A strong man admits mistakes and fixes them. You have my respect Onomea!

 

[BC38]

A strong man admits mistakes and fixes them. You have my respect Onomea!

Ditto that. Never understood people who can't own their mistakes.

 

[chief38]

Onomea,
The Sig P365 is primarily a ECC & CCW

 

[Onomea]

Onomea,
The Sig P365 is primarily a ECC & CCW

Yes, that's my intent in buying it. I just want to get comfortable with it before carrying it, so expect that to take several range sessions.

 

[Onomea]

One of the issues I've had with the P365 is difficulty in dropping mags with the magazine release being essentially flush or near flush to the frame. I think this is due to my large hands, plus a touch of arthritis. I installed this extended release from Armor Craft, and like it a lot:





Makes quite a difference.

I'd also like to install their extended manual safety as I'd prefer an easier safety to manipulate as well. Unfortunately, they are sold out and unsure when they'll have it in stock again.

 

[Krogen]

One of the issues I've had with the P365 is difficulty in dropping mags with the magazine release being essentially flush or near flush to the frame. I think this is due to my large hands, plus a touch of arthritis. I installed this extended release from Armor Craft, and like it a lot:

Makes quite a difference.

I'd also like to install their extended manual safety as I'd prefer an easier safety to manipulate as well. Unfortunately, they are sold out and unsure when they'll have it in stock again.

I agree, it can be a bit of a struggle to hit the release button. I'll be interested to hear if you have any unintended magazine releases when the gun is in its holster. I think Sig may have made the release the way it is to avoid such an issue. It's probably very holster-dependent.

 

[Onomea]

I've been thinking about that, too.

With the two holsters I have so far, the Galco Tacslide, and the Vedders pocket holster, it's not a problem. These are both kydex. (Well, the Tacslide is kydex plus leather backing.)

Certainly something to watch carefully. I agree.

 

[Krogen]

I hadn't given it the thought it merits until you posted, Onomea. Thanks for making me think! I carry my P365 in either a Desantis IWB or OWB. Neither of them cover the mag release button. The standard button is short enough that it doesn't protrude beyond either holster's body-side surface. I'm not so sure about an extended button. The real eye-opener is that the neither holster protects the button from contact. I agree, it's definitely worth watching.

 

[chief38]

I don’t recall that much trouble loading the 12 round mag.
But the 17 rounder- I have 6 of them and I could only 15-16 rounds in them for first 3-4 loadings.
I use a UpLULA.

The 17 rounder is a BEAR - especially when new. Mine has been loaded only half a dozen times so far and still pretty hard. That is where the Uplula come in!

HINT: When using the excellent Uplula loader (in any magazine or caliber) load the very first cartridge by hand and then use the Uplula for all the rest. This helps prolong the integrity of the plastic or nylon follower. Even metal followers will get scratched by the loader's metal pusher, so I always make it a practice to put the first one in by hand.

 

[Onomea]

Another observation from a revolver guy new to the P365: Man, once you get the hang of the take down, compared to a revolver, this thing is a breeze to clean!