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When he posted Glock 45, he meant the new model. This model is basically a 19X in black. Some posters thought it was a 45 caliber Glock. Either way I would take it back to the seller. But I am guessing they or Glock will do nothing about it.
If it bothers you that much, have the slide stop replaced. If there are any GSS events near you, I bet they would replace it for free.
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Blue Label Glock
My understanding is that it is a Glock that is sold to Law Enforcement Officers at a discount
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Sounds to me like Muss Muggins is having a little fun with us. "Who do I sue?" over a little surface wear on a small part. Hard to believe that a man of Muss's experience would make such a big deal out of something like this. A call to Glock would probably result in a new part sent out immediately, maybe even a few promo items thrown in.
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LE package pistol, lower price and included two spare mags. You had to show credentials to purchase these guns. The labels were blue, like my Glock 32 box.
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Picked this up today. Blue Label Glock 45. The right side slide stop lever is degraded. Calling Glock tomorrow. Do I ask for a full refund or a new pistol . . . ?
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Well, Muss... errrr... Mr. Muggins.  Your first mistake was buying a Glock.  As far as that totally trashed and worn out slide stop lever is concerned, perhaps Glock is recycling parts from old, trade in pistols, not just because they are cheaping out, but because they are going green and are into the recycling gig.
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Sounds to me like Muss Muggins is having a little fun with us. "Who do I sue?" over a little surface wear on a small part. Hard to believe that a man of Muss's experience would make such a big deal out of something like this. A call to Glock would probably result in a new part sent out immediately, maybe even a few promo items thrown in.
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LE package pistol, lower price and included two spare mags. You had to show credentials to purchase these guns. The labels were blue.
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Nice program, but Glock is not losing a nickel on these deals. FFL dealer scans credentials, reports to Glock that the pistol was sold for law enforcement use, Glock gets to save the 11% Federal Excise Tax assessed on sporting goods (firearms, ammunition, fishing tackle, etc).
Any gun maker could do the same thing, but most require a signed statement attesting to the fact that the purchaser is a LEO and authorized to purchase the gun, then they ship direct to the agency for individual delivery. Glock appears to have streamlined the process and made it easier on everyone involved.
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I have watched several YouTube reviews of the new model Glocks and I do recall in multiple videos them discussing the thinness of finish on the slide stop/release and how quickly it appeared to wear. Perhaps this is an ongoing issue and this example was just handled enough at the LGS, shipping and laying around to create the wear. I believe I read someone else referenced the thinness on this thread so I'm being led to believe it is of concern if the aesthetics of a Glock worry you. I do know I've never had that wear show up on my gen 4's or 3's.
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I think the OP had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he posted the original comment!
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So who do I sue?
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I believe the OP is serious here. Even a Blue Label gun would cost near $500.00 and should not have a part with wear like that. I sent him a name and contact info for someone at Glock, Inc. who hopefully will help resolve this issue.
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Agree with one-eye-Joe
"I HAVE NO ATTRACTION TO GLOCK PISTOLS, DESPITE THEIR POPULARITY. I MUCH PREFER THE AESTHETICS OF MY STEEL AND WOOD"
I prefer Steel, wheels and wood!
Mr. Muggins If I were in your situation I would want a full refund or an exchange for an unblemished one.
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Well, it certainly eliminates your G45 from the concourse 'de elegance event at next year's Glockapolooza.
As Marcie Darcy once said: "Man, that just frosts my weenie".
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Probably. In another firearm. I don't buy or own or use glock pistols.
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$398.20, no tax, free shipping, no transfer fee from my friendly LGS owner . . .
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I believe the OP is serious here. Even a Blue Label gun would cost near $500.00 and should not have a part with wear like that. I sent him a name and contact info for someone at Glock, Inc. who hopefully will help resolve this issue.
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My Sig P224 sat on a shelf for about 5 years. Still looked perfect. I would first stop by the offending LGS.
Unfortunately, you accepted the gun. I'm sure you're just as mad at yourself as anyone else.
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The finish on this part tends to wear easily. I replaced this part because the finish was gone from the original one, yet two months later this is what I had. A combination of sweat and holster rub caused this.
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Glock will likely send you a shipping label to return the M21 and make it correct.
Does the weapon fire and function overwise ?
The photo shows a bright spot on the lever ? If that is the only issue, I would use a black sharpie as another member suggested.
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I think the OP had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he posted the original comment!
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i was about to say the same thing. a parody of some relatively recent posts by others.
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Same as any other Glock except a certain number are allotted to Law Enforcement certified dealers for sale at a discounted price to those that qualify for the LEO discount. The discount isn't restricted to LEO only and a surprising number of other people also qualify for the discount. If interested ask a dealer as I don't know the whole list of qualifiers.
Here you go, straight from Glock: Blue Label Program
I asked at a Blue Label dealer for my brother. The dealer wasn't sure but did some checking and said my brother's ID from the VA showing his 100% service related (combat) disability qualified but I don't think he's actually used it so I can't say for certain.
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$398.20, no tax, free shipping, no transfer fee from my friendly LGS owner . . . 
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That’s a great price. I paid just under that for a Blue Label Glock 43 not long ago.
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That’s a great price. I paid just under that for a Blue Label Glock 43 not long ago.
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I bought a barely fired 43 this past summer for $350 from a deputy who was wanting a coyote/FDE Blue Label 43. He only let me have one magazine . . .
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I bought a barely fired 43 this past summer for $350 from a deputy who was wanting a coyote/FDE Blue Label 43. He only let me have one magazine . . . 
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I like FDE guns too, but mine are Sig P250’s.
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Muss,
While the part in question is one that will eventually wear anyway, I fully agree that you are entitled to the NEW pistol you paid for and should NOT take it upon yourself to have to fix it - even though installing a new one is easy - it's the principal. I'd also be a bit curious as to WHY it has worn that much if it is new. Did they just install a bad part? Did they install a used part? Did someone along the line try to pass off a "used" pistol? Was it a re-furb?
If it were mine, I'd ask for a new gun and I truly believe you are entitled to ask them to pay any freight and fees that might be associated with that. Please let us know what they have to say!
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Seems kinda mean.
PS: Those are Ray Ban . . .
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Easy fix for your self inflicted problem.
Remove your Tacticool shades when your indoors looking at guns.
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After reading the OP and the first ten comments I assume this is a joke thread is it not?
You said you picked it up frol a LGS which means you inspected your gun before you took possession am I correct?
If not, proceed;
Are there any other indications that your gun has other wear indicating it was previously owned and shot?
Is this a special rare Glock, one that you will pass down unfired in your family for generations?
If not, does the wear mark on that gun in any way effect it's performance?
Assuming you will carry this gun in a holster, you will be hard pressed not to have that mark show up within a few dozen draw/reholster training sessions.
After your holster sessions and firing a few thousand rounds, you would likely be able to sell that gun for at least what you paid for it if not a bit more.
All of this reverts us back to the first question I asked, "This is a joke thread is it not?"
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I would take it up with the LGS first, and ask for a new gun or a full refund. If the LGS refuses, I would never do business with them again and I would take the issue up with Glock customer service.
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Muss,
You asked, so here is my thought. I'm accepting your report at face value of the condition of this handgun. The brand makes absolutely no difference to me and it shouldn't to anyone. Ultimately, it's the manufacture who holds the warranty, but if I were you, and you are indeed friendly with that LGS, I'd tote it right back in there and tell them this is what you found when you got it home and looked at it in good light. Then I'd see what the LGS has to say about it. If you can't find satisfaction there, then I'd probably get in touch with the manufacturer forthwith. I'd also like to know if there are any other signs at all of usuage or firing (beyond factory). If indeed your copy left the factory in that condition, then a pox on the factory for letting it out the door lookin like that.
I will say that the gurl I've been married to for almost 50 years had a mark or two and a blemish that more careful inspection revealed after our wedding day. I'm glad to say that I decided to accept those marks and blemishes, given that I brought a few of those to the table myself!! You gotta decide for yourself what you want to do, and I strongly suspect you can make up your own mind about that. Meantime, you've given us all a reason to spend a few minnits reading and typing!!! Good job, even if you are pushing our leg here and smiling all the while!
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99% chance it happened after it shipped. So, it's not a Glock problem and you can't sue them or send it back.
Since you inspected it and bought it anyway, it's YOUR problem. Just suck it up.
If the LGS hid the defect from you / had you inspect it in dark light, etc, then its the dealers problem and you should sue him.
If its a scam / joke, what's the purpose?
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Well, since I used my Benchmade automatic to cut the tape on the cardboard on the shipping box at the LGS to remove the pistol box as it came from the distributor, and then cut a seal on the Glock box, what else you got?
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Your LGS accepts firearm shipments without inspection? Mine doesn’t.
That’s unusual isn’t it?
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Your LGS accepts firearm shipments without inspection? Mine doesn’t.
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I guess you don’t enjoy the same relationship with your LGS as I do. If I want him to send it back, he’ll send it back. Small town living is awesome . . .
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I’m very good friends with mine and it’s a very small town but if he accepts a package that’s supposed to be a Glock and it’s not, that’s in his book and on him. I understand and agree with him verifying what he’s signing for.
But this doesn’t help with your problem, I digress. Sorry
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I’m very good friends with mine and it’s a very small town but if he accepts a package that’s supposed to be a Glock and it’s not, that’s in his book and on him. I understand and agree with him verifying what he’s signing for.
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LGS owner is a significant acquaintance. I doubt your “friendship” with yours is similar. It was NIB, it was from a distributor with whom he has a long term established relationship, he knew it was for me, the distributor had notified him of the shipment with a tracking number, and he was expecting it. Again, trust and relationships have many levels. Apparently yours aren’t deep enough. . .
Edit: He also knows I’m not a picky, condition obsessed prima dona, and unless it came in on fire, it was going out the door with me. Remember, he’s just a drop box in this transaction. No responsibility whatsoever except insuring that the gun isn’t going to an ineligible person . . .
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Hey you two... Don't start throwing things. You'll put someone's eye out!
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If you think that's bad, you should see how fast the black came off the blade of my Glock field knife.
I was using it as a throwing knife, throwing it at a pine tree with thick, soft (for bark) bark.
After the second throw, the bark had left my blade in the white, where it went in.
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Lol! I haven't seen a gen5 that doesn't show that same wear in the slide stop. It must rub off during handling at the factory.
I also found that the new black diamond finish, or whatever it's called, on the slide doesn't hold up very long against Kydex.
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That little bit of wear wouldn't have even been worth the time it would have took me to take a pic unless you bought it as a collectors item... Tactical Tupperware guns are just tools in my eyes... Now if the internals parts are worn I might be asking for a replacement... Wouldn't even be worth my time to call 'em to complain again, it's a tool and it's purpose is to function not look pretty but, that is just me...
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I have watched several YouTube reviews of the new model Glocks and I do recall in multiple videos them discussing the thinness of finish on the slide stop/release and how quickly it appeared to wear. Perhaps this is an ongoing issue and this example was just handled enough at the LGS, shipping and laying around to create the wear. I believe I read someone else referenced the thinness on this thread so I'm being led to believe it is of concern if the aesthetics of a Glock worry you. I do know I've never had that wear show up on my gen 4's or 3's.
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Hard to take seriously a thread where a phrase like "aesthetics of a Glock" doesn't at least spawn a whole new thread on oxymoronic language.
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Keep in mind also that Glock does not just assemble a gun, throw it in a box, and off to market. Each gun is inspected for function, and test fired which means handling. No new glock is a new glock, they have all been fingered, and fired at the factory.
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Muss Muggins Can I guess you own at least one M&P "gen 1" pistol since your here . But the 2.0 version are not that great stock ether . If yes knowing how bad the triggers are and the below to very below average ability to shoot decent groups your still going to complain about that wear mark on the glock slide hold open ! Take it up with glock CS as no answer will be found here and I'm sure what your gun shop will say .
Blame your self at this point and move on . Live and learn
Next time use your tactical flash light you should carry to look any new purchase over well .
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12-02-2018, 09:17 AM
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Character, that new Glock already has character.
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12-02-2018, 10:09 AM
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Yeah that was meant to be funny. Thank you for taking notice. Some days I wonder why I even respond to threads as it seems 90% of the participants don't read any of the posts just the OP and sometimes that even seems questionable by their responses. Either way it's been entertaining to pick a part the "quandry" of the original post.
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Hard to take seriously a thread where a phrase like "aesthetics of a Glock" doesn't at least spawn a whole new thread on oxymoronic language.
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12-02-2018, 10:58 AM
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Any thought that this is simply a finish defect on a single part?
Also, seems very odd that the LGS had not broken the seal given they have to log it coming in.
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12-02-2018, 11:01 AM
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Yep, you have a problem.
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12-02-2018, 11:24 AM
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. . . Also, seems very odd that the LGS had not broken the seal given they have to log it coming in.
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Not particularly, since I arrived at the LGS within about an hour of delivery. What's the exact rule on that . . . ?
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I just looked at a few of mine.
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These have been on the pistols for 25-30 years, but I think we may still have a shot at a class action suit.
Wadda ya think?
Hey wait a minute, they put your's on the wrong side!  Yep, we'll make million$
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