Range Report Seecamp .32

Over twenty years ago I bought a Kel Tec P32 as a possible backup gun. It weighed six ounces, and was reliable--decent little mouse gun for the money.

If it had fit my hand well enough that I could hit with it, I would have kept it. It didn't, I couldn't, and I sold it. Tiny guns don't suit my paws well. But I confess to having lusted for a Seecamp or NAA .32 for years.

I had a NAA Guardian in .32. I really wanted to like that gun. It had the mag release in the usual place. Almost every round my middle finger would release the mag. This is one case where the "heel release" is better. My doc buddy just got a .380 Seecamp, loves it though it was $$$$. Joe

Back when I started work I wanted to get a Seecamp .32 for a back up gun, but the price and 18+ month wait were a problem. When the Keltec P32 came out I bought the first one I ran across, and was very happy with it. It’s a reliable gun and as accurate as a mouse gun can be. If I take my time I can hit bowling pins at 25 yards with it. Mine is loaded with Silvertips, and goes with me to work every day.

I’d still buy a Seecamp if I ran across one at a reasonable price, just to have one. Being a .32 fan I also want a Colt 1903. I’m patient, so I’ll run across decent ones at reasonable prices eventually.

Interesting that this thread appeared as I bought a .32 Seecamp last Friday and had it shipped in. I picked it up today and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I don't think I'll try to qualify with it as NC requires rounds fired at 25 yard both standing and prone, but I'll carry it.

Can't wait until I can shoot it.

What do those that have them recommend for holsters?

Thanks,

Bill

Years ago I bought a Seecamp and it ran like a Rolex with a variety of ammo. Larry did a great job with mine but my only complaint was the hammering my finger took on each round fired.
Introduction of the Ruger LCP and the LCP II. Pretty much the same size, a more substantial caliber, and infinitely easier to shoot without all the knuckle battering. Regrettably, I sold the Seecamp in favor of a LCP II and it gets a lot more carry time than I ever thought possible.

WCCPHD said:

What do those that have them recommend for holsters? Thanks, Bill

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I use this holster by Bear Creek Holsters, New Braunfels, TX

WCCPHD said:

What do those that have them recommend for holsters?

Thanks,

Bill

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Hi Bill:

I pocket carry my Seecamp in either a Galco horsehide pocket holster, or a DeSantis (nylon) pocket holster. BTW, my Seecamp is chambered in .32ACP, I don't know if I'd want to shoot one in .380ACP.

Regards,

Dave

WCCPHD said:

Interesting that this thread appeared as I bought a .32 Seecamp last Friday and had it shipped in. I picked it up today and haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I don't think I'll try to qualify with it as NC requires rounds fired at 25 yard both standing and prone, but I'll carry it.

Can't wait until I can shoot it.

What do those that have them recommend for holsters?

Thanks,

Bill

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Bill:

As for a holster "No Holster". No holster is needed. A holster for a Seecamp, is akin to wearing shoes while swimming.

This is just an observation, and may not be consistent with the direction of this thread (not trying to hijack), but I believe shots from the lowly .32 acp had the distinction of setting in motion the events that led to the First World War. Someone correct me if wrong.

Delta Expatriate said:

This is just an observation, and may not be consistent with the direction of this thread (not trying to hijack), but I believe shots from the lowly .32 acp had the distinction of setting in motion the events that led to the First World War. Someone correct me if wrong.

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AND, also had a hand in ending WWII as Hitler used that caliber in the bunker.

Wow! 77 rounds in one range session? I’ve had 3 different .32’s over the last 20+ years, and now one in .380 and I don’t think I’ve put a total of 77 rounds through all of them collectively. Great little mouse guns! I almost always have mine with me in front right pocket to back up which ever bigger gun I’m carrying.

Delta Expatriate said:

This is just an observation, and may not be consistent with the direction of this thread (not trying to hijack), but I believe shots from the lowly .32 acp had the distinction of setting in motion the events that led to the First World War. Someone correct me if wrong.

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I think Archduke Ferdinand was shot with a 380.

So you could argue 380 was responsible for more deaths than any other caliber in history

Chubbo said:

Bill:

As for a holster "No Holster". No holster is needed. A holster for a Seecamp, is akin to wearing shoes while swimming.

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No holster for a seecamp is akin to no condom witha hooker.

If your carrying ANY gun without a holster, your carrying it wrong.

Marshal tom said:

Why do folks like the .25 and .32 for self defense use? They are so anemic for that purpose and there are so many other better choices available in more potent calibers??? Just don't get it! Don't get me wrong, I am not volunteering to stand in front of you guys that like em and let you shoot at me!!!

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Says who?

Honestly, the only folks I've ever seen calling .32 ACP anemic are those who erroneously site the proliferation/popularity of .380 ACP pocket pistols as evidence of such or otherwise make lame strawman arguments like "the police don't use 'em" as if that means anything.

Factually speaking, the .32 ACP was considered a respectable self-defense cartridge prior to the release of modern lightweight locking breach micro .380s, and had seen use in both the Military and Law Enforcement for decades in Europe.

The reason why you don't see .32 ACP pistols anymore is because it is now possible to get ultra lightweight/compact pistols in .380 ACP, ergo the average person (most of whom know little/nothing about firearms) opts for the more powerful option of equal size/weight. It has nothing to do with the .32 ACP being anemic but rather that it's possible to get more power out of pistols of similar size/weight in .380 ACP without having to sacrifice all that much in terms of ammo capacity nor stability. (Especially in modern locking breach .380 pistols.)

Heck, there is a large amount of folks who consider the .380 ACP anemic and argue that folks are better off carrying a slightly larger/heavier gun in 9mm Luger.

Meanwhile, true experts have been saying for decades that shot placement is more important than caliber, that shootability is more important than energy, and that the fabled hydrostatic shock simply isn't even possible in handgun velocities, yet folks continue to ignore that, placing some arbitrary limit on which cartridges are effective, and sadly more often than not choose to associate the cartridge they carry with their own masculinity, even when it comes to mouse guns.

Personally, I carry .380 ACP in my EDC rotation, but if there were a practical reason to choose .32 ACP over .380 ACP, then I would consider opting for it if I felt the benefits were worth the trade. At this point in time though, .380 ACP has effectively supplanted .32 ACP in modern lightweight carry pistols, albeit not strictly because .32 ACP is weak nor ineffective, merely because .380 ACP is arguably more effective.

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I think Archduke Ferdinand was shot with a 380.

So you could argue 380 was responsible for more deaths than any other caliber in history

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I stand corrected. I thought for sure it was a .32, but I was wrong.

Since this thread is about the Seecamp .32 pistol; this is mine. I shoot only LW Seecamp recommended ammo. Absolutely reliable and at three to seven yards hits right where I point it. BTW, I carry it in a Jackson Leather Works pocket holster.

Chubbo said:

Bill:

As for a holster "No Holster". No holster is needed. A holster for a Seecamp, is akin to wearing shoes while swimming.

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Well you're just wrong.
A pocket holster keeps the gun oriented correctly for a fast draw.

Chubbo said:

Bill:

As for a holster "No Holster". No holster is needed. A holster for a Seecamp, is akin to wearing shoes while swimming.

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Many years ago, there was a small gun store here in Austin. The store owner was a bit odd, and he was very opinionated - I think he was a retired Treasury agent. If you wanted to buy a gun or a product he didn't like, he'd tell you in no uncertain terms what a piece of excreta it was, and then suggest alternates - sometimes those that he didn't even stock in his store. I recall going into his store and asking for a pocket holster for my Seecamp. "Naw kid, save your money. You need a pocket holster for it, but you don't have to spend a fortune on it. You got 5 minutes?" I did, and he asked me for my Seecamp. I took it from my pocket (I had it wrapped in a handkerchief), removed the magazine and handed it to him.

He reached under the counter and pulled out a used padded mailing envelope. He cut the envelope in half, then cut the bottom half of the envelope in half and placed the Seecamp in the remaining quarter section of the envelope and stapled the open side closed leaving the top of the envelope open. He then pulled out a roll of duct tape and covered the entire holster with duct tape. The holster may not have looked like much, but as he explained to me, it accomplished what a good pocket holster should do - help break up the shape and outline of the piece, and it kept the pistol properly positioned in your pocket. I used the envelope holster for years until I got my Galco and DeSantis pocket holsters in a trade. BTW, the gun store owner carried a pair of .32ACP Seecamps in matching envelope holsters on him as his EDC.

Regards,

Dave

Chubbo said:

Bill:

As for a holster "No Holster". No holster is needed. A holster for a Seecamp, is akin to wearing shoes while swimming.

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I would never, ever carry any gun without a holster. I pocket carry a DAO J-frame, so the possibility of it accidentally (or negligently) firing in my pocket is minuscule. But a good pocket holster, as someone noted above, prevents the embarrassment of reaching for the gun and finding it upside down or sideways. It also, besides helping to break up the outline of the gun, keeps lint and crud out of the works.

I would think that a mouse gun as tiny as the fine little Seekamp would be really susceptible to pocket rotation, and carrying one so splendidly concealable on a belt would be kind of silly.

Information

seldon14, & Ralph7, and others:

It gives me great pleasure, to be informed that my erroneous method of carrying my Seecamp .32 pistol is "Wrong".

It makes me shudder to think of what could have happened to me and my family, by carrying it daily, for 24 years in the wrong way.

This great information has destroyed my confidence, but has shown me the light.

I would like to ask forgiveness, for following the manufacture's explicit instructions, about the type of ammunition to be used in their firearm. I should have known that there would be many well informed people, that would know more about what type of ammunition to be fired in the .32 Seecamp, than it's Maker.

Excelant information is available, if one only keeps an open mind, listens, and pays attention.

I give my thanks, to my many critics, for the great, and helpful information.

Chubbo