The U.S. Browning Automatic Rifle

I qualified with one in Viet Nam in the mid-1960s while serving in the Navy on boats running Marines up rivers. I was assigned to a M-2 50 BMG machine gun with an M-2 Carbine as a backup. The M-2 Carbine was later traded for an M-14. A Marine Major I served with could fire one round with the BAR in full auto. The best I could ever do was two rounds and usually three rounds with a quick trigger pull. I didn't find the BAR or M-14 that hard to control on full auto.
 
Don`t forget us Navy men. We had BAR s too and we shot them quite often. All of our small arms were WW2 vintage Garands, M-2 carbines, Thompson's, BAR. We had them for use by the boarding and landing parties. Watch standers carried 1911`s. At the time I thought the Navy would never run out of ammo. We once had to unload all of our ammo at Yorktown VA and the warehouses there looked like the "raiders of the lost ark " movie full of ammo.
 
One of our teachers in High School was a Forward Observer in a Bronco, early in Vietnam (He showed up at our school around 1971) His issued "Survival" weapon was a 1918A1. The VC learned not to shoot at people that would rain air strikes and artillery on them, so he didn't need to "survive". Ivan
 
There are some folks who claim the M-240 MG is just a BAR turned upside down with a belt feed. You might check that out.
Geoff
Who was a 45B20 back in the 70s.
 
The way to remember the selector switch on the A-2 is simple:
S = Safe
F = Fast
A = Awful Fast
:D :D

Since reading John's excellent article I have had a nagging thought and just put a calculator to it:

>At the "slow" rate of fire (450 rpm) a 20 round magazine would be emptied in 2.66 seconds; and
>At the fast rate of fire (600 rpm) a 20 rounder would be gone in 2 seconds.

You American Heros that toted these monsters all over the world must have carried a lot of magazines! (30.06 ammo is HEAVY too). Or was a belt feed the only practical way to shoot? Maybe stay in semi-auto?
 
ABC TV'S "The Gallant Men"

When I was a young lad back in 1962, I remember watching the short lived (one season) ABC TV show "The Gallant Men". One of the main characters on the showed used a BAR, and that is where my fondness for that rifle began. There is no doubt when you see one, you know exactly what it is. It is one of the best looking military rifles ever made. Great article. Thanks for sharing this.
 
Since reading John's excellent article I have had a nagging thought and just put a calculator to it:

>At the "slow" rate of fire (450 rpm) a 20 round magazine would be emptied in 2.66 seconds; and
>At the fast rate of fire (600 rpm) a 20 rounder would be gone in 2 seconds.

You American Heros that toted these monsters all over the world must have carried a lot of magazines! (30.06 ammo is HEAVY too). Or was a belt feed the only practical way to shoot? Maybe stay in semi-auto?

SOP for the BAR guys was to fire in short 2- or 3-round bursts unless it was really necessary to go full rock and roll. The BAR manual (FM 23-15) issued during WWII showed an effective (sustained) rate of fire as 120 to 150 rpm. The limitation was overheating of the barrel, and was the principal reason Browning chose to have this arm fire from an open bolt. The barrel was fixed and not readily removable. Usually the BAR man had an "assistant" who humped a lot of loaded magazines and had them close at hand. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

John
 
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I will confirm that my father said the first thing he did was throw away the bipod and carry handle. He carried one for the last six months of WW II in Europe. He carried two bandoliers of magazines pancho villa style. He was the biggest man in his squad at 5'11" and 185 pounds.

My uncle was a BAR man with the 45th division. He also tossed the bipod!! He was only about 160lbs though. He loved and hated the weapon.. While he was still alive he told me "Everytime I fired my BAR the germans would all concentrate their fire right at ME.." LOL. I guess they didn't like BAR men. Lyle carried it through Anzio and the Southern France invasion (Operation Dragoon) I would LOVE to own one!!!
 
Hmmm..yeh...the BAR...

My son and I attended a military show..reenactment..gunshow..machine-gun shoot a few years ago.

I paid some dollars so my son could shoot a BAR...now my kid pesters me to buy a semi-auto BAR....
 
Excellent Article. Sure brought back some memories.

In 1970, IV Corps, Viet Nam, we were "transitioning" the Vietnamese Regional and Popular Forces (RF/PF's) to the new family of weapons (M-16's/M-60's) and away from the M-1, M-1 Carbine, and the BAR. Already been mentioned, but it was funny that it seemed like the "smallest guy in the unit" was the "BAR guy".

The BAR is a finely crafted "battle weapon" but had it's disadvantages when compared to the M-60. First and foremost was the weight (they're heavy suckers). Second, the M-60 was a belt fed weapon, which greatly increased it's "sustained fire". And third, the "quick change" barrel enhanced it's ability to "stay in the fight".

Although my Vietnamese units (I advised 5 RF Companies and 34 PF Platoons) were authorized (by TOE), the M-60's, the normal supply channels were often slow to fill demand. Being the "resourceful operators" that we were, we figured out another way to get M-60's into the hands of our troops. We could trade captured weapons (AK's, SKS's, Chicom rifles, etc) to the "supply guys" at Vinn Long airfield for cases of steaks. Then, we'd take the steaks to the other side of the airfield and trade them to the "aircraft maintenance guys" for M-60's. Pretty good deal when you factor in that the govt. was paying about $860 for each new M-60. My guys didn't really care that the guns they were toting bore "circular aircraft sights" and lacked a bipod. They still put a lot of fire downrange.
 
Sundown III: I've never met anyone else who has had to do with the RF/PF. They were good troops. I was in the RF/PF division of MACV CORDS, and later worked with the People's Self Defense Force, PSDF.
 

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