Upgrade to Glock!!??

[Pasifikawv]

My regular LE/NRA Instructor keeps harping at me to "upgrade" from Sigma 40 to Glock 22/23 for my everyday sidearm.

While my everyday sidearm is primarily for concealed carry and PP, I do sometimes use it for duty (SPO/AS) carry. My instructor cringes if I tell him I used my S&W as a "duty" sidearm.

I am by no means a "Glock-hater" and certainly wouldn't dislike having one. Always enjoyed shooting them and find them more accurate than my Sigma. I typically use a Glock for my annual qualification. But is it really an "upgrade" worthy of the extra $200 to go Glock?

Should I make the trade and go with a Glock and forsake my Sigma?? I am torn...

 

[OKFC05]

You could upgrade the instructor instead.......
I give my fellow instructors heck if I catch them advocating only a particular brand (NRA seriously frowns on this practice)

I would put an M&P, XD, several others in the list if I wanted to consider an "upgrade" to a Sigma.

Then there is the question of what problem is this supposed to solve for you, exactly?

 

[Glock 'em down]

That Sigma will do everything that Glock will do.

I'm a recovering Glockoholic.

 

[BigRich315]

Get an M&P and tell him you went ahead and "upgraded" past the Block .

In all seriousness, I agree with OKFC05 on the instructor, if he really means it. The Sigma is an entry-level gun but very capable. I wouldn't expect NATO to purchase a number of them if that wasn't the case. Unless you personally find fault with the weapon, don't let anyone talk you out of it.

 

[Beauetienne]

Carry what you want but, if a friend or acquaintance asked me whether they should upgrade from a Sigma, I would say yes.

Sig, S&W M&P, Springfield XD, Glock....

Not knocking Sigma but, I have shot it and all the above (own all but the M&P). When life or death is the question, I would upgrade.

G'Luck.

 

[Littledragon777]

I got rid of my Glock 23 and bought 2 M&Ps a 40 and a 9 and have never looked back.

 

[tlen]

I sold a G23 and upgraded to a SW99C and haven't looked back.....

 

[Trippy]

i have fired a glock and a m&p both in .40 i then bought a m&p .40, i love it, i find it a very accurate, smooth shooting weapon i did not care for the glock, just my opinion

 

[1066]

I do not own a Sigma, but I have shot one and have to say it does not have the best trigger in the world. With what little shooting I've done with a Sigma, it seemed adequate for any self defense need, and is very reasonably priced.

That being said, I have to go with Beauetienne. If any friend of mine asked, I would also recommend an upgrade from the Sigma if they could afford it. I also think the Glock is just one of many options, the XD and M&P should both be considered and are both fine guns. I own some of each, and can not say any is the best. I personally prefer the M&P since I have a small hand and the M&P fits it perfectly with the small size grip insert.

Also, don't rule out the S&W 3rd Gen autos. If you search the forum you will find ample discussion - these are fine guns and I would argue superior to the Glock, M&P or the XD in many respects.

 

[surveyor47]

All right, I just have to stir this pot!

Somehow, I cannot get past the idea of a holster being a guns primary safety! Depress that little trigger safety and you have a trigger pull about equal to a cocked S&W revolver! How many of you semi auto guys would walk around with a cocked S&W revolver, relying entirely upon the holster to keep things from touching that trigger? Thats about how much sence a Glock makes to me.

There is just something about an external safety on a semi auto that makes so much sence to me. Grip safety. Thumb safety. Something more than a little lever on the trigger. This is why the S&W 3rd Generation semi autos make so much sence to me.

The S&W M&P with thumb safety makes sence to me. The Springfield XD with grip safety makes sence to me. Glock does not compute to my revolver brain.

 

[SWID]

All right, I just have to stir this pot!

Somehow, I cannot get past the idea of a holster being a guns primary safety! Depress that little trigger safety and you have a trigger pull about equal to a cocked S&W revolver! How many of you semi auto guys would walk around with a cocked S&W revolver, relying entirely upon the holster to keep things from touching that trigger? Thats about how much sence a Glock makes to me.

There is just something about an external safety on a semi auto that makes so much sence to me. Grip safety. Thumb safety. Something more than a little lever on the trigger. This is why the S&W 3rd Generation semi autos make so much sence to me.

The S&W M&P with thumb safety makes sence to me. The Springfield XD with grip safety makes sence to me. Glock does not compute to my revolver brain.

Wasn't there some football player that ruined his whole career over this very thing?

 

[1911ES]

Glock

I almost bought a Glock 36 two weeks ago ....... until I looked at, and held the Smith & Wesson 1911 Compact ES .45
That pistol was perfect .......... End of story

 

[sonny]

My regular LE/NRA Instructor keeps harping at me to "upgrade" from Sigma 40 to Glock 22/23 for my everyday sidearm.

Should I make the trade and go with a Glock and forsake my Sigma?? I am torn...

If your Sigma has ever ONCE failed to fire, sell it.
My son-in-law police sergeant is a 20-year departmental weapons trainer and supervisor and runs SWAT. His department upgraded from Glock 22 to Glock 35, and he carries a model 27 backup inside his vest.
I've owned about eight of them. I don't remember ever having a single malfunction. My 27 once digested a friend's double-charged reload of Bullseye and kept on running, once i picked up the blackened mag, reinserted it and cleaned the black crap off of my hands and fingers.
My 26 is the most accurate of my five present Glocks, but I'd go to the line with any one of them.
Yeah, my friend,...make the trade. This is not the time to be loyal to any particular company.
Sonny

 

[81jasonG23]

no way

I actually traded my glock 26 in for a 5903, some ammo and mags. I have always loved the look of the smiths. After I refinished it , installed a new spring kit and aligned the sights it shoots like a dream.

Around here a sigma can be had for around $300 new in box...glock...not quite

 

[d625]

I don't know anything about a Sigma, but I can give you an opinion regarding Glock v M&P

I shot various Glocks in local competition for five years or so, and got interested in M&P's after handlining one. So I bought an M&P9, and very quickly found that I liked everything about it better than a Glock.

So I bought an M&P9L Pro, and in the process ended up with no Glocks and two Smiths. I have about 3500 rounds between the two, and still like them better. The longslide Pro is as accurate or better than my G34 was, the ergonomics are better, it points better, etc.

I had to send one Glock back for a minor problem which I don't remember, and one M&P back for an ejection problem. (Ejection problems have been a problem, but seems to show up from round one)

Only remaining question is reliability, and that will take some time for me to know. I accumulated something more than 20,000 rounds on Glocks with NO failures of any kind. NONE.

This has nothing to do with Sigmas, so take it for whatever it's worth.

 

[Aglifter]

Glocks are good in that there have been so many of them made, the problems are well sorted, and there's a great deal of choice for holsters, etc. The main fault w. them, IMO, is terrible ergonomics.

Personally, I don't like the M&P trigger, so I haven't bought one yet -- I'm sure it works, but it just doesn't feel right to my finger.

I've been very happy w. my XD45 5", and have been thinking about picking up an XDm - but I gave my XDSC to my sister-in-law. I carry a G29 at times, I think Glocks feel OK in the sub-compacts, but I despise the full-size ones.

My Sig P226 is very well made, after it had a trigger job done on it, it felt as good as the W. German models. A DAK sig would basically have a very nice double-action revolver trigger on it, and may be a good choice.

 

[d625]

Personally, I don't like the M&P trigger, so I haven't bought one yet -- I'm sure it works, but it just doesn't feel right to my finger.

Good point about the trigger. It's likely that if a gun "feels good" when you're thinking about a change, it will work for you when you shoot it. As an ex-dealer, I couldn't count the number of buyers who looked at several guns to find the one that felt the best, but never pulled the trigger on any of them.

All of us have an idea about what is a "good" trigger. I personally like the M&P trigger better than a Glock when I shoot it, and better than an XD when I dry fire it (I've never shot one).

Last club match I attended, I talked to one shooter who traded his XD for an M&P because of a better trigger, and one who traded his M&P for and XD because of a better trigger.

I guess the point is to make sure you put the trigger pull into the equation when you are making a change

 

[G-Mac]

Depress that little trigger safety and you have a trigger pull about equal to a cocked S&W revolver! How many of you semi auto guys would walk around with a cocked S&W revolver, relying entirely upon the holster to keep things from touching that trigger? Thats about how much sence a Glock makes to me.

If I cock the hammer on a S&W revolver, I don't have to pull the trigger very far to make it go "bang". Maybe about a millimeter?

If you have a holstered Glock, with one in the chamber, doesn't the trigger have to move a lot farther to make the weapon discharge?

I'm just not sure if you're comparing apples to apples.

For those who feel the need for a Manual Safety on their Glock, you can always have a Cominolli kit installed...

www.cominolli.com

 

[C/O]

If you like the gun, keep it. I recently sold a Sig P229 so I could get a S&W 3913NL. With the left over cash I used it to help buy a new computer. My friends think I was nuts, but it works better for my needs. Do what is best for you.

 

[M29since14]

You could upgrade the instructor instead...

Just how much experience with the Sigma does this instructor actually have?

Without some specific reasons that you can get your hands on, especially if you are concerned about the money, why change?

I agree with the poster who said the Sigma is adequate. The Glock may be a marginal upgrade in terms of a somewhat better trigger action, and may stand up to more use/abuse. Other makes/models offer additional improvements. If these factors are not important to you, there is no need to change. JMHO.