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Reloads or Factory?
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Carry Ammo Survey -- Factory or Reloads?
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SuperMan
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Factory... The CorBon .38 Super PowR'Ball load is powerful, reliable and very accurate...and I can not duplicate it.
As to reloads, I often carry them in my revolvers and used to always carry reloads in everything up until the early 1990s when factory ammo was finally better than what I could make..
..and no I don't worry about it.
Bob Makowski
As to reloads, I often carry them in my revolvers and used to always carry reloads in everything up until the early 1990s when factory ammo was finally better than what I could make..
..and no I don't worry about it.
Bob Makowski
Cruiser RN
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I always carry Factory ammo.Being a lawyer you already know that the chorus of "You made those reloads so hot as to be devestating with whatever mystery substance encapusulated in the hollow point so that you would kill that "Fine citizen" trying to just take your money and we can't test the bullets" would be sung to the jury.This way the factory rounds would be one less thing to worry about.Here in New York if you are killed in a robbery attempt its oh well too bad.If you kill the robber,even if cleared by a Grand Jury in the shooting,you will be sued for wrongful death so the robber's family will be successful in what the perp was not and use the legal system to do it.If you are exonerated you will be broke from the legal bills.....Ain't America Grand........Mike
Centenniel
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I have been a handloader for about 30 years. I carry factory ammo for serious social purposes.
smith revolver cop
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Factory. Period.
Not to disparage any of the handloaders here, but it's hard to beat the quality control for name-brand, high-quality self-defense or law enforcement ammo. And, like the old commercials... If it doesn't say Sunkist, you don't know what you might be getting! I like to know pretty much exactly what's in my sidearm.
Not to disparage any of the handloaders here, but it's hard to beat the quality control for name-brand, high-quality self-defense or law enforcement ammo. And, like the old commercials... If it doesn't say Sunkist, you don't know what you might be getting! I like to know pretty much exactly what's in my sidearm.
When I carry a handgun it is always without exception loaded with factory JHP ammunition. In choosing a home protection handgun, I bought what is standard issue in the local police and sheriff"s department... i.e., Glock G-22 w/ Remington 180gr. JHP. I figure if ever challenged on the handgun or ammunition that I might have to use, there will be little room for argument if I am using the same handgun and ammunition as is commonly issued by local law enforcement agencies. Sincerely. brucev.
Knightrider03m
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Factory ammo only.
jframefreak
Member
Factory ammo here. Winchester Ranger.
Erich
Member
Didn't we just do this? 
I carry factory ammo in my semiautos, and sometimes handloads, sometimes factory in my revolvers.
I've been through my rationale here a few times before, so I won't bore anyone with it.
I carry factory ammo in my semiautos, and sometimes handloads, sometimes factory in my revolvers.
I've been through my rationale here a few times before, so I won't bore anyone with it.
Sir, FWIW, I often carry handloads in the boonies, but not around town. Were it not for the previously mentioned legal concerns, I'd just carry my handloads everywhere.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
Didn't we just do this?
Sir, it's Tuesday. You know the rule. ;-)
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
I remember a post by a famous gun-instructor who testifies in a lot of court cases. I believe he said that he had never seen that issue used in a courtroom...which is contrary to what most folks preach.
Whatever, I only carry factory. It is very likely to go bang when I want it to. No other reason is necessary. I've been reloading for 50 years and I know there have been times...
Whatever, I only carry factory. It is very likely to go bang when I want it to. No other reason is necessary. I've been reloading for 50 years and I know there have been times...
500 Magnum Nut
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Factory ammo for the street because of lawyers, reloads for range.
You beat me to it. I was just going to ask if anyone knew of a documented case where the "hot reloads" argument was used?
I very often carry reloads as defensive ammo. Many times when I make a late run to the convenience store for cokes or gas, I will stick a Chiefs Sp. in my pocket that is loaded with 146 grain wadcutters with "several-point-five" grains of Unique behind them. Sometimes I stick a .45 Vaquero in my waistband, and it is always loaded with reloads. I carry these guns on the farm for snakes, cats, coyotes, wild dogs, trespassers, armadillos, etc, and that is how they stay loaded. I have been handloading about 36 years, and I have fired enough of my loads that I believe the chance of a misfire is negligible to not a factor. When I load a batch, and I usually load about 500-1000 at the time, I will shoot 50 or a hundred from the batch to "proof" them, just to make sure there wasn't a bad batch of primers or something.
A case that I know of involved a woman who allegedly was shot by accident with reloads.
The husband's story was that he had loaded his wife's gun with either wadcutters or SWC (can't remember) at a very light load so she could manage the recoil. Story goes that one day she was holding the gun to her head threatening suicide. According to the husband, he tried to grab the gun from his wife when it discharged. Evidence showed that the wife had no ascertainable gun powder on her skin around the bullet wound. Prosecution insisted that this showed the wife was shot from a relatively great distance, and that the husband's story was fabricated. His contention was of course that the rounds were loaded so light, the gun powder completely burned before reaching his wife. The prosecution contended that there is no factory loaded ammunition that would burn all the powder over that short of distance. The husband tried to introduce his reload log and submit reloads for testing as evidence. The court refused to allow this evidence to be admitted. (not sure on what grounds) He ended up being convicted and serving time. Who knows what really happened, but it is an example of how reloads can come back to bite in the courtroom.
The husband's story was that he had loaded his wife's gun with either wadcutters or SWC (can't remember) at a very light load so she could manage the recoil. Story goes that one day she was holding the gun to her head threatening suicide. According to the husband, he tried to grab the gun from his wife when it discharged. Evidence showed that the wife had no ascertainable gun powder on her skin around the bullet wound. Prosecution insisted that this showed the wife was shot from a relatively great distance, and that the husband's story was fabricated. His contention was of course that the rounds were loaded so light, the gun powder completely burned before reaching his wife. The prosecution contended that there is no factory loaded ammunition that would burn all the powder over that short of distance. The husband tried to introduce his reload log and submit reloads for testing as evidence. The court refused to allow this evidence to be admitted. (not sure on what grounds) He ended up being convicted and serving time. Who knows what really happened, but it is an example of how reloads can come back to bite in the courtroom.
WildCard ZX6R
Member
Factroy only when packing for defense against two legged mutton.
Charles
Member
When I carry either a .45LC Mountain Gun or a .44 Mag Mtn. gun, it's with my loads. I try to tailor tehm to abot 950fps with a 250-280 grn. bullet.
nitesite
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Off my property, it's factory Gold Dot ammo.
On my land, my revolvers have handloads in them.
On my land, my revolvers have handloads in them.
flop-shank
US Veteran
I carry both. As my supply of factory is used up, I will use handloads in all of my centerfire weapons.
I am sick and tired of the ridiculous prices of factory defensive ammo, and the atrocious quality of some that I've bought over the last three years. I've got defective ammo from Speer, Remington and Buffalo Bore. I can make better ammo than they can.
I am sick and tired of the ridiculous prices of factory defensive ammo, and the atrocious quality of some that I've bought over the last three years. I've got defective ammo from Speer, Remington and Buffalo Bore. I can make better ammo than they can.
safearm
US Veteran
Factory. There are enough quality rounds for any purpose, and why introduce one more factor that can be used against you.
