Full body scanners
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reyno2ac
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Queequeg-X
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I'm amazed at the hyper-modesty of many folks who object to the scanners out of concerns for their "privacy". Didn't most of us use gym showers and such without any psychological injury? I think most adults and even most children have a pretty good idea of what nude homo sapiens of both sexes and various shapes and sizes look like, and I can't see prurience or embarrassment arising from a fuzzy monochrome scanner image. These people maybe should spend a weekend at a "nudist colony" --- that might cure them of prudish concerns about privacy... Who cares if some poor TSA sap has to suffer through watching low resolution images of mostly not-very-beautiful people?
BarbC
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But there's privacy beyond just nudity. There's prosthetics, colostomy bags, etc. that, now discovered, means a trip to the back room and having to dismantle private medical devices in front of some TSA hack.
It is a shame that so many people will let the government do what it wants just so they "feel safe". Also because they "feel safe" does not mean they are safer. By submitting to a scan or search at the airport or anywhere else means they have given up their right against unreasonable searches. But they "feel safe". Larry
"But there's privacy beyond just nudity. There's prosthetics, colostomy bags, etc. that, now discovered, means a trip to the back room and having to dismantle private medical devices in front of some TSA hack."
Barb, an excellent point --- I'd assume that people who know they're likely to be scrutinized because of these "conditions" will be able to discreetly request a "pat down" rather than the scan, or some similar alternative examination. Certainly, no such circumstances would warrant an exemption from being searched. ("So sorry, but you may not look under my robe or turban --- I have a special medical device ...") I suppose these folks are simply going to have to suffer whatever indignity they attach to a perfunctory procedure.
Barb, an excellent point --- I'd assume that people who know they're likely to be scrutinized because of these "conditions" will be able to discreetly request a "pat down" rather than the scan, or some similar alternative examination. Certainly, no such circumstances would warrant an exemption from being searched. ("So sorry, but you may not look under my robe or turban --- I have a special medical device ...") I suppose these folks are simply going to have to suffer whatever indignity they attach to a perfunctory procedure.
I don't want anyone looking at my body with a scanner. I want a nubile young 'Goth girl' (with lottsa pierceings) to 'feel me up'.
Of course with my luck, I'd get a 'wannabe' Boy George.
I suppose it's out of the question to concentrate on likely terrorists. Like the 'El Al' security does?
Of course with my luck, I'd get a 'wannabe' Boy George.
I suppose it's out of the question to concentrate on likely terrorists. Like the 'El Al' security does?
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Capt Steve
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Several here have railed against this terrible government intrusion on our rights, privacy etc.. Don't blame the government for trying to do the right thing and protect the public. Vent your anger at the freakin terrorists without whom none of this would be necessary. I guess you could blame the government for pissing off the terrorists to begin with but lets not go there.
Everyone knows before they buy a ticket what to expect at the airport. If you can't live with the new rules don't fly or come to the airport and bitch. Do I like it? Hell no, but it beats getting blown out of the sky. I hope they get better at screening, whatever the method utilized and lets get back to some common sense profiling, the hell with PC.
Everyone knows before they buy a ticket what to expect at the airport. If you can't live with the new rules don't fly or come to the airport and bitch. Do I like it? Hell no, but it beats getting blown out of the sky. I hope they get better at screening, whatever the method utilized and lets get back to some common sense profiling, the hell with PC.
Airline security searches are not about catching bad guys, they're about preventing fanatic Muslims from acting out their warped religious exhortations to kill us infidels by raining hellfire from the sky, by blowing up America-bound airliners. We infidels don't run the same risk upon entering the neighborhood Piggly-Wiggly, as yet...
As Captain Steve said, we need to get realistic about examining prospective flyers, toss out the PC handbook, and get real --- Caucasian Presbyterians and Baptists and etc. have so far not been much of a threat --- it's been fanatic Muslims that have been causing all the trouble ...
As Captain Steve said, we need to get realistic about examining prospective flyers, toss out the PC handbook, and get real --- Caucasian Presbyterians and Baptists and etc. have so far not been much of a threat --- it's been fanatic Muslims that have been causing all the trouble ...
Captain Steve nailed it.
FTR, I daresay I fly and have flown far more than most on this Forum. Now over a million miles. At least 99% of that time I had a gun either on my person (yes, even post-9/11) or in my checked bag...now exclusively since 2005...and at times prior.
My bag has been delayed overnight a grand total of twice and never lost. Both times my gun was safe and sound in it when we were reunited.
There is far too much "I heard someone say..." or "My neighbor/friend/friend of a friend..." stuff that is patently untrue. Yes, I have had some rather "humorous" encounters with security and TSA personnel. (Once had to relinquish a cigar punch whilst traveling with a 14 round pistol on my hip.)
I have been the subject of wandings and pat downs. No worries; I grin (usually) and bear it. I have nothing to fear from being searched and frankly hope someone will soon get a thrill taking a gander at my physique...such as it is. Maybe I'll go commando just hoping they have a really sensitive scanner.
Yes, certain nationalities and a particular religious group are most recently committing the atrocities but suspect Timothy McVeigh looked like a whole lot of Forum members. And it wasn't too long ago that Northern Ireland was being torn asunder by, again, folks who look much like a lot of Forum members.
Here's a truth: If I encounter someone onboard trying to mix their cologne with their shaving cream or assaulting a crew member I will be involved.
Be safe.
FTR, I daresay I fly and have flown far more than most on this Forum. Now over a million miles. At least 99% of that time I had a gun either on my person (yes, even post-9/11) or in my checked bag...now exclusively since 2005...and at times prior.
My bag has been delayed overnight a grand total of twice and never lost. Both times my gun was safe and sound in it when we were reunited.
There is far too much "I heard someone say..." or "My neighbor/friend/friend of a friend..." stuff that is patently untrue. Yes, I have had some rather "humorous" encounters with security and TSA personnel. (Once had to relinquish a cigar punch whilst traveling with a 14 round pistol on my hip.)
I have been the subject of wandings and pat downs. No worries; I grin (usually) and bear it. I have nothing to fear from being searched and frankly hope someone will soon get a thrill taking a gander at my physique...such as it is. Maybe I'll go commando just hoping they have a really sensitive scanner.
Yes, certain nationalities and a particular religious group are most recently committing the atrocities but suspect Timothy McVeigh looked like a whole lot of Forum members. And it wasn't too long ago that Northern Ireland was being torn asunder by, again, folks who look much like a lot of Forum members.
Here's a truth: If I encounter someone onboard trying to mix their cologne with their shaving cream or assaulting a crew member I will be involved.
Be safe.
Except for the terrorists, the people killed on 9-11 were private individuals doing business with private companies and government employees in the Pentagon and I am quite sure that most of them would have wished the goverment would have made it their business who the hijackers were and what they were carrying.
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Bassamatic
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I picked this scanner image off another forum. To me this is amazing. Now, I have a young daughter and a wife and I'm not real sure I would want either one to be gawked at by some security employee. Good grief.
Blacksmith58
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Bassamatic, I saw that on Drudge Report Yesterday. Here's my question; If these scans are not recordered or stored, then how the heck are they getting on the net??? Somebodies lying!!!
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