So what does everybody think of the Toyota recall?

Thanks! I love that. As I pointed out last week, a woman featured for a few days with the same story that was repeated on the news for days was investigated and it was dug up that she never fixed the car, sold the car, and the people that bought the car also never fixed it and are happy with it!!!
Bloodsuckers always come out. Stop and reason this out. Up to a month or so ago, not a word! Now there are new ones daily that claim the same experiance!
What do we know for sure that all these claims are based on? I belive it was the family of a CHP that called on the cell phone and crashed? I dont know what happened on that deal. He might have actualy been human and not super man just because he was a chipee?
Panicked like other people? That car probley was so destroyed maybe they cant tell. Early on this thread I told about a old 72 chrysler I had breaking the engine mount to where I had a close death encounter trying to stop it. When we are talking billions of miles driven by people in this country in toyotas every day, anything is possible!
As said, common sense asks me why this didnt happen before a month ago, but now several people a day are jumping on the gravy train?
 
Foodfuzz said:
. . . Just like when you're in the parking lot thumbing through the owners manual to find out why your check engine light came on . . .
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Only wussy drama queen Prius drivers consult the manual for the check engine light. Real men put a strip of black electrical tape over the light and keep on driving . . .

;)

Noah
 
All manufacturers have the sudden unintended acceleration concern but only Toyota is being persecuted for it. Who was the #1 benefactor of the Obama cash for clunkers program? Toyota. Go to Smart Car Buying, New Smart Car Prices, Smart Car Used, Smart Car Research | CARSMART.COM | CarSmart & check number of recalls since 1990. GM over 4000, Chrysler,Plymouth, Dodge, Jeep over 2600, Ford over 2100, Honda/Acura 900ish, Toyota/Lexus 700ish. I manage the service department of a medium sized Toyota dealer (we work on about 20,000 cars per year) we have not had any customers with any of the issues described in the news. No offense to union members but if Toyota's were made by UAW members you would never hear about any of this. There may be issues that need to be resolved & they will take care of them. They have no desire to kill off their customers. From my perspective it seems to be an organized demonization of a competitor from the White house & it's accomplices in the news media.
My .02 worth
Scott
 
As a retired GM technician,the M van (Astro Safari) had a similar problem.The cruise control would come on after the
vehical was started and put into reverse ,to what the cruise was last set at. It was quickly remedied at or engineering
by reprograming some of the software.Letters sent out to
the dealerships and remidied before getting into the field.
 
ladder13 said:
I already did, a Rav4 built in America by Americans.;)
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And more than half the US dollars you paid for it was forever drained from the US economy and injected into the Japanese economy.

Including the multiplyer effect, the total impact on the US economy amounts to a negative impact of about 4 times the total purchase price of the product sold by a foreign owned company.
 
m1gunner said:
And more than half the US dollars you paid for it was forever drained from the US economy and injected into the Japanese economy.

Including the multiplyer effect, the total impact on the US economy amounts to a negative impact of about 4 times the total purchase price of the product sold by a foreign owned company.
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I own an International truck built by Navistar, and American company based in Chicago, IL. My truck was built in Canada. I used to drive a Freightliner, which was built in Mexico. Volvos are built in the US, but they are a foreign company. The engine in my Ford pickup, IIRC, was assembled in Mexico.

We live in a global economy. There is no vehicle you can buy that is 100% assembled in the US, using 100% US parts, buy a US company. Not one.
 
The Big D said:
BRAKES WILL STOP A VEHICLE. ENGINE SHUTDOWN AND NEUTRAL HELP, ALSO.

How To Deal With Unintended Acceleration - Tech Dept. - Auto Reviews - Car and Driver

Car and Driver magazine article proves the point.

It is my opinion that driver error is, by far, the leading cause of the Toyota "problems." Driver stupidity contributes, too.

Be safe.
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this article does not take into account the reality of drive by wire in the face of a highly probable computer lockup (floor mat my eye)
the shift linkage is whole or in part replaced by a wiring harness. if this is a system failure ... shift to neutral will mean nothing cause it does nothing.
Ignition also answers to the computer. go ahead .. try it, if its a programming error in effect ... it too means nothing.
it is very similar to a hung PC .. ctrl+alt+delete fails ... thats it, no input gets through
 
m1gunner said:
And more than half the US dollars you paid for it was forever drained from the US economy and injected into the Japanese economy.

Including the multiplyer effect, the total impact on the US economy amounts to a negative impact of about 4 times the total purchase price of the product sold by a foreign owned company.
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with respect, I think that statement is flawed by some manufacturers.

I have personally been thru the Honda plants in Ohio. They cast and machine the engines and parts, stamp body parts, paint, assemble, ship, all from right there.

So explain to me how lots and lots of money goes back to Japan.

Please be specific.
 
And by buying a made in Mexico or made in Canada vehicle, how am I helping the American economy? The wages stay in those countries, the workers shop and eat in those countries. Does Ford ,GM or Chrysler pay Mexicans the same wages as US auto workers? If not, why not? Why don't they pass the savings onto US consumers? If those "American" car companies cared about US workers and families they'd produce those cars here.
As truckemup says, name one 100% made in America car, with 100% parts manufactured and assembled here.
Toyota Sequioa is made from 80% US parts. The Jeep Patriot :rolleyes::o , no less, is made from 65% American parts.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...pKGADg&usg=AFQjCNGOKiMhkMmKp_OGBHfNK4KSgaCwRw
 
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I think the government is attacking Toyota. They had a problem and are trying to fix it.

At present, I drive a Ford F350 and wife has a Doge 1500, both 4x4. When we replace one of these, it most likely will be with a Toyota. It will not be a GM or Doge.
 
roundgunner said:
with respect, I think that statement is flawed by some manufacturers.

I have personally been thru the Honda plants in Ohio. They cast and machine the engines and parts, stamp body parts, paint, assemble, ship, all from right there.

So explain to me how lots and lots of money goes back to Japan.

Please be specific.
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Ill take a crack at this referencing a gentler time of the 70's
at the time ... total materials bill was all of $500 in any given vehicle .... it sold at the lot for around 7000
thats a multiple of 14 times materials, or 6.5 kilobucks gross profit. Of this, about 500 was likely gathered by the dealer leaving 6 kilobucks ... of that figure 10% or 600 bucks per unit was labor and operating cost.
now we are down to 5400 ... this goes to the company ..... wherever its headquarters may be ... foreign or domestic.
thats quite a chunk of payolah going ... somewhere
 
Mitsubishi made very reliable Japanese Zero war planes, 328 attacked US soil and killed over 2300 Americans. Recall??? That's a fact that I recall and will not forgive or forget.
 
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