Question for LEOs regarding criminal carry.

[charlie sherrill]

In 41 years I've found a few fixed blade knives in a sheath (keeps them from cutting things off) but never a handgun in a holster. As mentioned above, if a crook wants to ditch a gun he doesn't want a LEO finding a holster telling the LEO what he probably just did. Most of these guys are convicted felons and don't want any evidence on them that may lead the LEO to have a reason to look around. I haven't run into any white supremicist. Most of them are up north or out west. So are most of the liberals and progressives. Go figure.

 

[Big Cholla]

In 20 years the only 'bad' guys that I discovered with holstered guns were two we stopped for the noxious smell of marijuana coming from the car. One had a .38 snub in an ankle holster and the other had a Model 10 in a shoulder holster. ........... Wait for this, they were on the way to the desert to practice using the holsters! Both were very young and stupid types. Once I too heard the call of a perp driving away from a burglary. I saw a nylon holster lying in the road. I figured that he had a stolen gun. He did, but we arrested him without a problem. .... Big Cholla

 

[GatorFarmer]

I'm not a cop. I've known a decent number of criminals. One pimp that I used to know, casually, carried a Sig 230 or 232 in an unknown make leather holster. He was upscale in his dealings and probably even had a carry permit.

A common and useful expedient, advocated by Workman Guy from his semi successful stint doing strong arm robberies - was to cut the top off a bubble envelope and fit in your pocket. This actually makes a decent improvised holster.

During my crackhouse dwelling phase, one of the local dealers that threatened me via a hand on his the butt of his auto (looked like a Hi Point) looked as though he had it crammed in a clip on nylon holster. This may have been because one local dealer could usually be talked into giving such as a "throw in" with a sale.

We also found an old leather holster, possibly homemade, along with a box of .38 SW ammo with five rounds missing (and a box of 16 gauge slugs with one round missing) abandoned in an apartment, the two former occupants of which had apparently robbed the denizens of a different apartment (reportedly armed with a sawed off shotgun and a top break revolver). Whether they had the holster with them during the robbery I don't know, they certainly didn't find it worth taking along.

 

[oldman45]

I haven't run into any white supremicist. Most of them are up north or out west. So are most of the liberals and progressives. Go figure.

We have enough white supremicist down here in Louisiana that we can share some with you, if you like. These guys own some really nice weapons and lots of them. I never figured where they come up with their ideas or way of life.

 

[Chubbs103]

I don't know why I remember this, bit Timothy McVeigh was carrying in a shoulder holster when he was taken into custody. Of course he had a CCW permit. It just wasn't valid in Oklahoma where he was pulled over.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Those Crown Royal bags make for good holsters

 

[OFT II]

Those Crown Royal bags make for good holsters

I'll drink to that!!!

 

[akviper]

I encountered one ankle holster and two shoulder holsters in 30 years. I also encountered two with empty holsters and no guns. They managed to ditch them before we caught them.

 

[ColColt]

I may have told this story before if so-my apologies. This subject brought to mind an incident that happened back in 1974 when I use to do a lot of target shooting with a then new Colt 1911 MK IV Series 70. I had left the pistol inside a three month old Bianchi holster along with two empty magazines in the glove box, had a CPO jacket in the backseat and small tool box with Craftsman tools in the floor board of my Super Beetle.

The car was parked in front of the house and next morning when I went out to go to the store, I noticed the glove box was open, no jacket or tool box in the back. They had pried the pop out glass of my VW and reached in and opened the door and took it all. Only one person knew about the pistol...a next door neighbor who was a trucker with three thieves for sons.

I made a report of the incident to the locals and figured I'd never hear anything on it or see my pistol again. Fast forward to 1984-ten years later. I had moved from NC to TN and got a call from the Charlotte police department with what sounded like a familiar voice. It was an old school buddy who had made it up the ranks to police chief there. He told me they had located my pistol in San Raphael, CA and that I would be getting it back but it was tied up in a murder trial so it make take some time.

Several months later he called again and said he had it if I wanted to come get it. Without hesitation I left thinking all the way there that it's probably rusty, beat up and probably looked like it had been through WWII. Surprisingly enough, it looked like it did the day it was stolen...sans the Bianchi holster and one magazine.

I never did find out who initially stole it but had a good idea but could never prove it. So, some criminals like fine holsters and CPO jackets, apparently as he left nothing unturned. I ended up selling the .45 as I thought about where it had been and what it had done. Police reports on stolen firearms do work-even if it's ten years later.

 

[monet61]

Criminal carry

The one that still chills me is a guy I stopped for speeding. NCIC came back with a want for the arson murder of his family. A deputy sheriff from a adjacent agency happened by, and stopped to assist me. I had patted the guy down and asked the other deputy to put him in my car. He patted the guy down and found a POS Raven .25 taped under his left armpit. I never felt it. Changed the way I searched suspects, and I still thank God that deputy stopped.

 

[AKAOV1MAN]

Going on 47 years with a badge and a weapon. Have observed only two holsters. One was a shoulder holster(homemade) contained a really large bowie knife. Was back in 68, guy was later famous as the LA slasher. His buddy was the one with the gun, an old S&W 32-20, 6" barrel, carried it in a Greyhound bus shoulder bag. He pulled it out and cranked off a total of 7 rounds(he only reloaded 1). Kid OD on lead, 2 hours before the Democratic Convention opened in August, enabled Mayor Daley to claim "no one was killed during the convention".

Second holster was a really nice Meyers Threepersons rig for a Colt Python, guy thought he was a gunfighter, he wasn't.