Value on a 15-4 suicide gun.

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I was just wondering if you experts could tell me what's the going rate on a 15-4 snub nose Smith and wesson are going for. It's blued and is at about 98%. Supposedly it came in on a police auction and had been a suicide gun.:eek:

Thanks in advance,
Cav
 
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I have bought 2 suicide guns from Police auctons -- a Colt 1911-A1 and a Taurus 85 -- both are great guns and i'm not bothered by them at all -- I also have the Taurus 85CH that my Mother killed a home invader with about 15 years ago -- I will never part with it -- It lives in my console in my car ready to do it's thing again if needed
 
At least you know that they work. I don't see what its past brings to the table so far as value. None of my guns has ever spoken to me about what they did before being in my possession. Remember, it is a inert item with no mind of its own and did what it was tasked with doing. Its not like a car is responsible for its operator choosing to drive it while impaired. Right...? Kyle
 
Jeez, think of all of those M-1's and 1911's that should be destroyed because they did what they were made to do.

Give the gun a good home and it will serve you well.
 
As much as $450 maybe? Depends on your part of the country, some areas see a good premium for the 15 snubs. More commonly I'd think 350-375.

If there is distinctive blood pitting on it, that generally lowers the value since it damages the blued finish. Glocks and the like, eh, a bit of bleach spray to kill the germs and a soak in soapy water plus a scrub and they are fine.

Wouldn't bother me. I have lots of used guns, some close to 100 years old, one even older. I have no idea what they were or weren't used for in the past.
 
I had this exact situation from firsthand knowledge. It is not rational or explainable, but it was creepy knowing its history and I wound up trading it away. If the story behind the model 15 doesn't bother you, it doesn't. Good luck with your decision.
 
Two of my brother officers owned personal guns that they had been forced to use to take a life with, both in the line of duty. A gun shop in a nearby city offered them big bucks ($2500 each) for the guns if they could provide copies of police reports documenting (by serial numbers) that the guns had indeed been used to take a human life. Seems like there is some sort of (sick, IMO) market for this type of thing. (one was a early model 66 4" and the other a Springfield 45 standard - nothing fancy, just duty guns.) Neither officer sold to this shop. WTH?
 
Two of my brother officers owned personal guns that they had been forced to use to take a life with, both in the line of duty. A gun shop in a nearby city offered them big bucks ($2500 each) for the guns if they could provide copies of police reports documenting (by serial numbers) that the guns had indeed been used to take a human life. Seems like there is some sort of (sick, IMO) market for this type of thing. (one was a early model 66 4" and the other a Springfield 45 standard - nothing fancy, just duty guns.) Neither officer sold to this shop. WTH?
Wow that is sick. But just like anything twisted, I'm sure there's a market for it.
 
Short barreled K frames seem to be in demand lately at our local gunshows and on the internet sites also. Regardless of the history,if it's a nice gun anything less than $400 seems like it would be a bargain.
 
Two of my brother officers owned personal guns that they had been forced to use to take a life with, both in the line of duty. A gun shop in a nearby city offered them big bucks ($2500 each) for the guns if they could provide copies of police reports documenting (by serial numbers) that the guns had indeed been used to take a human life. Seems like there is some sort of (sick, IMO) market for this type of thing. (one was a early model 66 4" and the other a Springfield 45 standard - nothing fancy, just duty guns.) Neither officer sold to this shop. WTH?

That's weird that they would assign a value to that. I guess if a man murdered a member of someones family and was then killed in a shoot out with police that the officers weapon that was used to dispatch the perp MAY have SOME value to a surviving family member. I don't know, it wouldn't to me but there is no accounting for taste (as anyone who has surfed the web can see.:eek:)

I picked up a Louisville police stamped 29-2 4 inch that was issued in the mid 70's to the TAC unit (precurser to SWAT) and I agree with the previous posters about a weapons past being irrelevant. I have no desire to know if it was used in combat or ever fired in defense. I just like it because it's part of my regions history.

However, with that being said, I had TWO Argentine weapons, A hi power and a Colt, they both would not take a blue due to the blood that had left been on them from pistol whipping someone I assume. They were both from Argentina's "Dirty War" period and the police that used these were kind of like the Gestapo in WW2. My wife's parents immigrated here from Argentina and I got rid of both weapons out of respect for them though I liked them both. It appears I pick and choose when a weapons history bothers me. I have a Winchester 6/44 m1 carbine that was never issued and a 1944 BCD K98 that was unissued as well. The GI took it off the storage rack at the factory and brought it home. (That's what his non gun loving son told me anyway). I love both of those guns because they were in the bloodiest conflict of all time and were never fired, but I wouldn't love them any less if they had been blooded. History is neither good nor bad. It just is.

IMHO,
Indiuckian
 
I recently bought a Nickel snub 15 (-3?) for a bit under $400 like new no box or docs.
Traded it for a 4" Model 28.

I wouldnt put any additional value on a gun that shot someone unless the person killed was famous or infamous and the gun was documented beyond any doubt.

I seem to recall some commotion about a converted Victory K frame snub that was up for auction that belonged to Lee Harvey Oswald.

Of course it didnt kill anyone but it was his and the seller put a slight premium on the gun, Slight enough to start a bidding war on it.

Another interesting one that went up for auction belonged to the Hillside stangler.
I can only imagine how much Hitlers suicide ( PPK , ?) would go for at auction.
Certainly there will always be interest in these things.

Two of my brother officers owned personal guns that they had been forced to use to take a life with, both in the line of duty. A gun shop in a nearby city offered them big bucks ($2500 each) for the guns if they could provide copies of police reports documenting (by serial numbers) that the guns had indeed been used to take a human life. Seems like there is some sort of (sick, IMO) market for this type of thing. (one was a early model 66 4" and the other a Springfield 45 standard - nothing fancy, just duty guns.) Neither officer sold to this shop. WTH?

I am almost tempted to ask for this dealers number... our department shoots their fare share of bad guys down here....;)

HAPPY HOLIDAYS GUYS!
 
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"Buy the gun, not the story."

Heard it a million times.

Joe
 
Would'nt take it if it was free

Would you own a Walther from WW2? One that possibly killed American soldiers?

My dad told me once he would never own a Mitsubishi because they made Zero's during WW2. But he owned Mausers and Walthers. I could never figure that one out.
 
Thanks for all the responses guys!

The area I live in is Florida if that helps narrow down what the price should be. Just for the record the story doesn't bother me at all. Don't really care either way. I just thought it be interesting to throw that in there as when I saw the pistol last time it was still in a biohazard evidence bag and all bloody. 98% condition was the guess the store gave me that they thought it will be after cleanup.
 
At least you know that they work. I don't see what its past brings to the table so far as value. None of my guns has ever spoken to me about what they did before being in my possession. Remember, it is a inert item with no mind of its own and did what it was tasked with doing. Its not like a car is responsible for its operator choosing to drive it while impaired. Right...? Kyle

Why did that make me smerk? That's SO bad!! ...and I'm sick. :rolleyes:

rags
 
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