So Much Negativity

Now that it is March we start to cheer up.. And do you know why???

And of course its not why our friend the esteemed Cajun is happy. He's happy because this is the month of two major events. OK, three if you count the first day of spring. Wait, 4 if you consider Fat Tuesday. And then there's St Paddy's day.

Its a lot going on in one month. 3 include drunkenness. What's not to like?
 
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Hold on just a second here. This is a negative post! And the OP has only been here a month.

We freely air gripes on this forum. Its a healthy thing to do. Posters here often do have legitimate things they want to discuss, and we normally don't have any wet blankets putting the Kibosh on those discussions, nor should we.


So... Let me get this right... You're complaining about his complaining about all the complaining? :)
 
Hate to tell you sparky-buy February is the month to be negative.
Now that it is March we start to cheer up.. And do you know why???
March is National Frozen foods month-bringing families closer together with nutricious savory and tasty frozen foods!!!!!!! Ummmm good :)
NFRA | Annual Promotions

You got that right! In March I thinkk of Smith&Wesson and Clarence Birdseye and the world makes sense again.
 
RossMatt, hang in there and I think you will enjoy it here. We have our share of very opinionated folks hear and the certainly add color to the forum. I think I read the thread you started about people buying new S&W's and it opened the floodgates concerning some of the parts on the new guns. I would be willing to bet the the most opinionated among them have never owned or used a new gun with the said parts so their opinions may be suspect at best, just like mine about the performance of the guns. I don't own any of the newer guns , being a dinosaur I refer the older stuff, helps to relive my youth, but I don't have a knee-jerk hatred of the newer stuff but am satisfied with my old timey guns. I have been tempted by some of the newer ones but there always seems to be a 5 screw calling out to me.

You have some excellent posts here and I look forward to more. This is a big house, plenty of room for all the family members.
 
Maybe folks complain because they put a lot of faith in they quality of a particular brand of firearm, and are disappointed to the state of peeved when it don't measure up to their standards.
Also, something that may improve some of the attitudes, at least for me, is the fact that we go on daylight savings time the 13th of this month. A little more unwinding time, in a better climate, at the end of the work day. Might even get in a little range time now and then.
Turn that frown upside down type of thing.
positively yers,
gordon
P.S. I love my 1990 model 65 and wouldn't trade it for anything. Very high quality handgun for sure, but I suppose that all good things must end. Probably won't be in my lifetime though.
 
I have noticed it......I have been "flamed" for owning IL and MIM S&W revolvers and saying (gasp) that there is nothing at all wrong with them, and to some people here, saying the IL wheelguns are good shooters is like farting in church.
 
daaamn... just read this one... I think I feel ya Ross.. Know what ya mean. I would say we are both pretty new, I am definitely a newbie, but not blind, stupid or nieve. I do have both old and new guns thanks to my dad, he left me about 100 guns when he passed away. I sold or traded lots of the older military guns, in turn buying newer stuff I was attracted to. My attractions have grown from what I have learned from the several sites I have participated in this last year. This site has become my favorite. The knowledge and experience is no doubt incredible. I have great respect for most guys here, but that doesn't mean I have to be quiet when I feel I have something of value to offer. Bottom line, I am trying to be respectful of everyone here, sometimes it is tough to maintain control... open mouth insert keyboard.. it happens. Can't wait for the snow to melt... and Thank God for Smith & Wesson Retail Store and indoor Range... :D
 
Since I am both one of the site's newer posters and one who has had negative things to say about Smith & Wesson's service, permit me to explain my rationale.

I spent 38 years in the automotive industry, most of them as a service manager. I learned pretty quickly that there are more bad places to have your car serviced than good ones and committed myself to offering good service. I succeeded, as my shop was consistently ranked among the best on the auto manufacturers' customer satisfaction surveys. I applied my lips to the public's backside on a daily basis because that's what you must do in today's age of consumerism.

Communication is the heart of every relationship from marriage to business. When a company cannot communicate well with its client base, that client base looses confidence in the company and seeks similar products elsewhere. An auto shop without a good communicator with some technical knowledge on the desk can employ the best technicians in the country but will never realize its full potential. That's just human nature and it's my criticism of S&W.

They aren't alone, either. Most businesses have downsized their employee ranks and have fewer employees each doing more, which often waters down their ability to execute each of those tasks as well as they did their former fewer responsibilities. But just because everyone is doing it, that doesn't make it right - it only makes it tolerable.

A lot of successful companies are riding the coattails of their past success and popularity. Smith and Wesson is one of those companies and as long as their customers keep the demand for their products high, they'll see no reason to change.

Once upon a time, Comcast was THE cable television vendor in this area. Their customer service sucked but we had little other options. Then Verizon launched its FIOS service and central Pennsylvanians flocked by the droves to it, not so much to get a better product but to get away from Comcast. I was one of those customers. But Comcast has seen the error of its ways and now offers a 30-day money-back guarantee of satisfaction with their company in its entirety - products, service, personnel, everything. We recently moved to an area Verizon does not yet serve and had to return to Comcast for TV and Internet. I was truly impressed by the installer and the support people I've had to call to get minor kinks ironed out!

By telling a business what it does not like about it, a customer is doing that business a favor. The business can't fix what it doesn't know is broken and a dissatisfied customer who, like most, just quietly goes elsewhere is not helping to correct a deficiency.

I always liked the old saying, "If you are happy with our service, please tell others. If you are not, please tell us." I haven't posted a thing on here that I haven't told S&W. I'm a fan of their products and want to see the company prosper for many years to come.

Ed
 
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From the mouth of babes:

It is telling that a newbie notices the negativity. Some of us that have been around and get sensitized to it.

I try to ignore the negative. This is a great forum with lots of generous, knowlegable and friendly members. Please don't let a few bad apples ruin your experience here.

I've found this forum to be a great place to visit, interact and learn.

Best regards!
 
I hear you, if you are not happy with the new era guns dont buy em then you wont have to complain about em.The new smiths I own are awesome , they are more durable just as accurate and made to tighter tolerances then my older smiths. Sure I dont like the lock but I have a new 617 with a small fortune of ammo through,I have a new 629 with about 6000 rounds through it I havnt had any trouble.....zero. I will continue to buy and shoot the new smiths has a matter of fact I have one on order now and I cant wait for it to get here ..... thanks
 
I'm sure your post was in jest, but I take it very seriously. One of my wife's and my favorite easy-to-fix foods is frozen whole okra, nuked in the microwave and seasoned with salt, pepper and olive oil. I'm sure that y'all C-A purists would consider that heresy, but we actually like it, so don't be badmouthin' no frozen foods.

Boiled okra is like having snot slide down your throat...now, fried okra is a fine thing. :p

See, if we can disagree over something as minor as okra, why would we ever expect to agree over something as profoundly important as our firearms?
 
I just think the people in the forum are getting older and crankier...

mmmmm...fried okra, wait a minute- corn meal or flour?
 
Swanson frozen dinners, now that's living!

Throw in some lime Jell-O and bulk sack vanilla wafers and lumpy buttermilk.

I'm too broken up to go on.
 
Swanson frozen dinners, now that's living!

Throw in some lime Jell-O and bulk sack vanilla wafers and lumpy buttermilk.

I'm too broken up to go on.

I'll take the Swanson/ salisbury steak please.. yuk, pass on the lumpy buttermilk.

Ok guys, sorry, musta been cabin fever yesterday.. I didn't realize that keyboard could fit so far into my mouth.. my back end is pretty sore from it pushing it's way out this morning.. :)
 
I feel let down by the frozen food industry. They have failed to provide for everyone's needs. Do you realize that there is no widely available commercial frozen gumbo? None. Not even Mrs. Pauls. The frozen food industry in general is a big disappointment. The canned and plastic packed food industry seems much better in this regard.
 
Boiled okra is like having snot slide down your throat...now, fried okra is a fine thing. :p

See, if we can disagree over something as minor as okra, why would we ever expect to agree over something as profoundly important as our firearms?

Your logic is almost perfect, except that okra IS essentially vegetable snot, so we don't really disagree. It is an acquired taste, like fresh armadillo toes on toast. Uncooked.
 
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