Glock Question

[Texas Star]

I'm totally not into Glocks and have held only a couple and seen them enough not to have developed any affection for them.

But John Sandford has a couple in his new mystery, Buried Prey.

One has a safety!? And one used by the killer has a 13-shot magazine. The caliber and model weren't mentioned.

Does the magazine capacity indicate what it probably is?

He used it to kill one of my favorite characters in the Prey series. I won't reveal who. Someone here is probably reading the book.

Oh: the hero offered his thoughts on "gun nuts" who use terms like "cocked and locked", etc. Inferred that they may want to get into gunfights. Oh, well: the author is a liberal reporter who turned to novels and who I believe reads, Rolling Stone, and whose music selection doesn't parallel my own. (I think I have bought RS just twice. Once was to read an article on a girl singer and the other time, they had a cool article on a shark attack.)

But his Prey series is usually quite good. And in the past, his hero has actually been really aggressive, eager to kill perps who upset him. In fact, he wants to kill the guy who killed his friend! Maybe that's okay if the hero is a Democrat who reads, Rolling Stone and who doesn't often recite gun terms?

That said, be careful who you discuss "gun nut" terminology with. They may tell others behind your back that you seem to want to be an action movie hero in real life. That could be a liability if you ever have to shoot someone.

T-Star

 

[ColbyBruce]

The Glock 23 & 32 have a standard mag capacity of 13 rounds. The select fire Glock 18 has a selector on the LH rear side of the slide. Glock may have built some models with safeties for markets other than the U.S.A.

 

[Rule3]

They can be installed.

Manual Safety Kit For Glock~ Thumb Safety For Glock - Cominolli

 

[cjw3]

There are a couple of aftermarket "safeties" available, although I doubt the author would have known about them.

More likely he is using some artistic license, intended or otherwise.

 

[Texas Star]

The Glock 23 & 32 have a standard mag capacity of 13 rounds. The select fire Glock 18 has a selector on the LH rear side of the slide. Glock may have built some models with safeties for markets other than the U.S.A.

What calibers are those, Bruce? I don't know their line well. Are they .40's?

I was thinking that maybe the Glock 19 9mm holds 13.

When I read the mag. capacity, I was expecting a Browning 9mm, but it turned out to be a Glock.

The hero, Lucas Davenport, wears a Colt Gold Cup .45 in this one.

I was deeply amused to read in the flashback portion of this book, where Davenport was a new patrolman in Minneapolis in 1985, that he was issued a Glock and had to carry it until he made Detective. Then, he could carry a foreign gun!

Anyone know what Minneapolis or the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension really shoot? Lucas now runs the BCA in the series. One of his agents in another series has a .40 S&W, but has to be reminded to carry it! (Virgil Flowers) I think it's a Smith 4006?

 

[jdh]

The 21 holds 13 rounds of 45 ACP in the mag.

 

[SW CQB 45]

G19 holds 15

G23 40 cal
G32 .357 sig

I think they hold 13 each

Yes, G21 (45acp) holds 13

we are talking factory mags

 

[Texas Star]

G19 holds 15

G23 40 cal
G32 .357 sig

I think they hold 13 each

Yes, G21 (45acp) holds 13

we are talking factory mags

My guess is that if non-factory mags were involved, they'd be mentioned as such...probably to infer that citizens don't need large mags.

Thanks! Just what I needed!

 

[safearm]

As a duty gun, I carried a Glock 21 w/13 round .45 ACP magazines AND had a Cominolli safety installed. The sheriff didn't mandate the safety, but would pay to have a department gun modified if you wanted it.

 

[6pack]

.....and they're all Glocks. Yep. I've never owned or fired one, but am curious. Pick one and if you like, state your reasons why. Thanks

I chose "none of the above".

I've had a few Glocks.....all were great shooters, fast on target, instinctive pointers, ridiculously simple to break down and clean, very accurate, etc, etc, etc.

They all went by the wayside, though, sacrificed to trades for other guns that I felt more "warm" about....wood gripped steel guns.






I do really want another GLOCK, though. I'd love to have a gun that could take hard knocks and heavy sweat exposure. Scratchs, bumps n' bruises wouldn't upset me like they would on my other guns.

I'm trying my dead level best to get into shape and find myself doing a lot of hiking and this week I'm back on my mountain bike. I'd love a hard carry weapon for this.

Don't get me wrong, my beloved 442 gets the duty most times for this....but I would like a round with more umphhhh and capacity as well as longer range precision (snakes, hogs n' coyotes).

I've given this much though and feel like the gun I want is going to be the G30.

It holds 10 + 1 rounds of 45acp, small profile...on par with the G19 in size, can use the longer magazines of the G21, easily concealable for me and has been given outstanding reviews on the Glocktalk.com forum.

Masaad Ayoob has been quoted as saying he feels that it is the most accurate of all the GLOCKS....having high confidence in obtaining 1" groups from a rest at 25yds. The recoil spring, 45acp round, solid lockup through bullet exiting the barrel are all rationale he weighs on this.

There are numerous aftermarket grip extensions that will lengthen the frontstrap area by replacing the factory magazine floorplates. Many of these do not increase the carry footprint when canted forward slightly but allow all fingers on the grip for rock solid control when firing.



My only dilema is that I have two other handgun projects in the works and I'm not sure if I want the G30 or G30SF......or wait until the G30 Gen4 is released (many believe in the next month or two).


Good luck. GLOCKS are solid weapons that can handle tons of abuse and not be worse for the wear, in fact they look better after much wear.

 

[Rule 303]

I like my Glocks, my Browning HPs, My Sigs and my 1911s.
And I really love my S&W Revolvers.
That said, I really like my Glocks for what they are and what they do. I've carried GO-Lock 21s, 30s and 19s on duty and off duty. Now that I'm retired, I usually carry a 19 in the summer. Glocks are like women to me, Beauty is great, but what I'm most intrested in is Realiability.

I don't care for some of the guns that others swear by here.
So it apples and oranges and Fords and Chevys.

Rule 303

 

[samuelrp]

This is my glock. There are many like it, but this one's mine.

 

[Texas Star]

This is my glock. There are many like it, but this one's mine.

Okay...which is it?

 

[lazy]

I am trying to sell my West German Sig P220 so I can get a Glock 23, for some of the same reasons already mentioned.

 

[JcMack]

I sold my last Glock today. It was a 23. Nice gun, N.S.'s and I had a 9mm barrel for it. I have never been comfortable with the lack of a thumb safety on the Glocks. I now use a Ruger SR9c. It has the best trigger I've felt in a "safe action" pistol. I'm debating on a second one as a bedside companion or maybe the SR9. That way magazines would be standardized. The SR series have ambi safeties. I doubt the Ruger SR's would survive the first leg of a Glock torture test, they are however well thought out guns.

 

[Texas Star]

I am trying to sell my West German Sig P220 so I can get a Glock 23, for some of the same reasons already mentioned.

Unless this post is a joke, I have an awful feeling that you'll regret the trade.

 

[Harrison]

I like S&W revolvers and carry one for CC. For a truck gun and a a rough duty take on any thing except acetone pistol, give me a Glock. They may not be pretty, but they are simple, functional, will take tons of abuse, are inexpensive as pistols go, and just plain work. They are light weight, point well and are ergonomic. They don't demand a lot of attention. Actually, Glocks are so ugly that they are cute. Sort of the AK47 of the pistol world.

 

[Pasifikawv]

I picked up on the Glock safety referenced in the book also. It bothered me. One of the things that attracted me to the Sanford/Camp novels was the diligent research and attention to detail.

I am aware of after-market safeties and Sanford likely is as well. Still, it irked me. It's not the kind of flub one would expect from Sanford or his editors.

 

[lazy]

Unless this post is a joke, I have an awful feeling that you'll regret the trade.

No joke, I have had it since 1995 and its spent most of its time in the safe. I have shot it less than a hundered times. When I went to buy more 7 round mags, for it, the cheapeast I could find is 67.00.

I would rather have a gun that shoots more affordable ammo, cheaper mags, wont rust, holds more bullets, with a G23 I can change barrels and make it shoot 9mm out of 33rnd happy sticks

I already have a nice Colt MKIV series 80 .45