sw44spl
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what a joke they may know aks but dont know jack about the bolt gun of ww2. he didnt know **** about the jap gun he just said anything I think.I have had several and know them very well I had to laugh on this one.
the new sons of guns tonite
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the show is ok but I'm already getting tired of it.
wheelgun28
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Somethings just seem silly to me, like a AK sniper rifle...
Really, an AK sniper rifle, come on.
They didnt say that they changed the caliber. Today .308, even the super duper mil sniper rounds are under powered, they tell me. So 7.62 x 39 is going to be a good choice? The bullet drop is very big, some charts have it at 120" at 500yd...
I think the 7.62x39 is close to 30/30.
It might be a fun toy, but to be used in actual work, I find it far fetched.
Also 6.5 Jap, hard to find?
Locally store have it on the shelf.
I guess it makes good TV
Really, an AK sniper rifle, come on.
They didnt say that they changed the caliber. Today .308, even the super duper mil sniper rounds are under powered, they tell me. So 7.62 x 39 is going to be a good choice? The bullet drop is very big, some charts have it at 120" at 500yd...
I think the 7.62x39 is close to 30/30.
It might be a fun toy, but to be used in actual work, I find it far fetched.
Also 6.5 Jap, hard to find?
Locally store have it on the shelf.
I guess it makes good TV
gjamison
Member
give it a rest guys!! there are shows about gun's on TV, what
more could you ask for. not everyone is an expert on all firearms. i
like to think i know a little about s&w's but i seem to find myself
digging through a book every now and then. i'm sure Mr Hayden and
his staff learn something new everyday.
good see people having fun with gun's,instead of people tring to take them.......
more could you ask for. not everyone is an expert on all firearms. i
like to think i know a little about s&w's but i seem to find myself
digging through a book every now and then. i'm sure Mr Hayden and
his staff learn something new everyday.
good see people having fun with gun's,instead of people tring to take them.......
In an ad he says, "That's the reason we go to war...to see who will win." Oh, really? I'll pass.
kraigwy
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What I couldn't figure out is why any machine shop would try to operate without a depth gage. I've chambered a lot of rifles over the years and I don't see how it could be done (right) without a depth gage. Sure you can do it with a caliper, but seems like a well known shop like Red Jacket would have a depth gage.
But I agree, AK sniper rifle, Take a $200 Dollar AK, dump another few hundred to make a sniper rifle, and you end up with a $200 dollar AK.
I think, (or hope) a lot of that BS is just to make the show interesting.
But I agree, AK sniper rifle, Take a $200 Dollar AK, dump another few hundred to make a sniper rifle, and you end up with a $200 dollar AK.
I think, (or hope) a lot of that BS is just to make the show interesting.
LVSteve
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I watched that show and there were some points of important technical detail that were omitted and other parts that were utter trash. Whether this was at the request of Mr Hayden or a clueless editor I do not know.
For example, one look at the mag showed that the AK was not in 7.62x39, but I do not recall them saying what caliber they did use. That was pretty stupid. Looking at the donor receiver I believe they used a 7.62x51 Saiga.
They spent a segment while the boss and his worker got into it about headspace but never used the term nor did they explain how the boss's method actually worked. That probably confused the average non-gun building viewer. It looked to me like he wanted to use a live round as a headspace guage. Don't try this at home. All that trigger work seemed like overkill, too. What was wrong with a Tapco G2?
The sections on the Arisaka were laughable to plain scary. The owner of that rifle did the right thing in bringing the gun in as he lacked the confidence/knowledge to sort it out himself. However, five minutes on the Internet would have told him how to dismantle the gun, strip the bolt anbd clean the thing. The Arisaka has a brilliantly simple bolt design and the basic firearm is very robust. His money, I guess.
The scary part was where the gunstore worker told his buddy that there was no safety on the gun. Rubbish, the Arisaka has a perfectly functional safety and if you know so little about a weapon, should you be "assisting" in testing it?
The owner should review that part of the tape and butts should be kicked.
For example, one look at the mag showed that the AK was not in 7.62x39, but I do not recall them saying what caliber they did use. That was pretty stupid. Looking at the donor receiver I believe they used a 7.62x51 Saiga.
They spent a segment while the boss and his worker got into it about headspace but never used the term nor did they explain how the boss's method actually worked. That probably confused the average non-gun building viewer. It looked to me like he wanted to use a live round as a headspace guage. Don't try this at home. All that trigger work seemed like overkill, too. What was wrong with a Tapco G2?
The sections on the Arisaka were laughable to plain scary. The owner of that rifle did the right thing in bringing the gun in as he lacked the confidence/knowledge to sort it out himself. However, five minutes on the Internet would have told him how to dismantle the gun, strip the bolt anbd clean the thing. The Arisaka has a brilliantly simple bolt design and the basic firearm is very robust. His money, I guess.
The scary part was where the gunstore worker told his buddy that there was no safety on the gun. Rubbish, the Arisaka has a perfectly functional safety and if you know so little about a weapon, should you be "assisting" in testing it?
The owner should review that part of the tape and butts should be kicked.
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mc5aw
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More "reality" show garbage designed to create drama for viewership, no different than any of the other dreck currently being programmed. Personally, I wouldn't trust these morons to install a Hogue grip correctly, let alone perform work on a firearm.
35Rem
Member
I found it interesting that a "custom" gun maker basically told the TRAINED gunsmith he hired to "wing it" with the headspace on a "Sniper" rifle. Seems like it would be important to get that right...
mg357
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the only thing that i thought was any good about the sons of guns show was the owners daughter she is a very pretty young woman
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It's entertainment. people want entertainment a lot more than they want information.
As far as spending money on guns most modifications do not add a penny to the value of the gun. In fact they usually detract from the value if you ever want to sell it.
These guys are not safe and provide video proof.
I became disgusted the first time I saw them firing without a proper backstop.
They normally just blaze away with nothing but trees or swamp behind the targets.
I became disgusted the first time I saw them firing without a proper backstop.
They normally just blaze away with nothing but trees or swamp behind the targets.
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I watched my first program last week where the "Military Contactor" wanted a remote machine gun mount on top of a vehicle where his employees wouldn't have to expose theirselves to fire at the bad guys.
I wondered why the "Sons of Guns" didn't just copy a ball turret from a WW II bomber?
I wondered why the "Sons of Guns" didn't just copy a ball turret from a WW II bomber?
well....she is kinda mousey in apperance but at the same time kinda hot
She also can out shoot the guys.
Gun-runner
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I like the part where they are going to shoot it and the one guy says "Be careful these gus don't have a safety". Really??? Do your homework boys!!!
bobelk99
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gjamison;136043993 I like to think i know a little about s&w's but i seem to find myself digging through a book every now and then. [/QUOTE said:
mwtdvm
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The Big Picture..
All those foreign aid dollars for military and anti-terrorism programs make it a slam dunk that these weapons will be procured in whatever caliber and sent to our beleaguered allies to provide the extra leverage to overcome their adversaries and of course they will be $2800.00 each (10% off in lots of 100 or more). They WILL work because they shoot the local milsurp ammo. Sub MOA at 1 kilometer...
And we taxpayers will be footing the bill..
All those foreign aid dollars for military and anti-terrorism programs make it a slam dunk that these weapons will be procured in whatever caliber and sent to our beleaguered allies to provide the extra leverage to overcome their adversaries and of course they will be $2800.00 each (10% off in lots of 100 or more). They WILL work because they shoot the local milsurp ammo. Sub MOA at 1 kilometer...
And we taxpayers will be footing the bill..
I really don't get too excited about the show, but I do like the daughter.
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sw44spl
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I agree im glad a gun show is on tv.but they do some unsafe stuff. like firing the arrow in the shop.and the daughter does need to wear a bikini next time she fishes with a bow.
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